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#1 Ordellus

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:03 AM

New LRMs are great....

but it brings out ECM and we're right back to having entire teams walk around invisible again...

PGI do what we're paying you for and fix the freaking game.

#2 LoneMaverick

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:11 AM

brings out ECM?

...are you suggesting you haven't been playing games with atleast 2-3 ECM per team, if not more, before the LRM balance?

#3 Eddrick

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:16 AM

It could be worse. They could be transparent like this Raptor 2 with the Chameleon Light Polarization Shield
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#4 Foxfire

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:24 AM

It's funny because I've actually been seeing a spread of weights that haven't been in this game for a long time.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:50 AM

View PostEddrick, on 23 March 2014 - 06:16 AM, said:

It could be worse. They could be transparent like this Raptor 2 with the Chameleon Light Polarization Shield
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Difference is, in battle tech, that thing couldn't boat PPC's due to a faulty hardsystem and have pinpoint damage on top of it.

On the bright side, at least it's not an invisible Atlas - DDC with all of the above.

.....oh wait.

#6 Davers

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:56 AM

This thread has everything! Nerf LRMs, Nerf ECM, Nerf boating, Nerf PPCs, Nerf pin point damage, Nerf Atlases (specifically the D-DC). Bravo!

#7 Zerberus

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 07:43 AM

View PostDavers, on 23 March 2014 - 06:56 AM, said:

This thread has everything! Nerf LRMs, Nerf ECM, Nerf boating, Nerf PPCs, Nerf pin point damage, Nerf Atlases (specifically the D-DC). Bravo!


They need to be careful, or they`ll end up like this guy...

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Edited by Zerberus, 23 March 2014 - 07:43 AM.


#8 Sandpit

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 09:44 AM

yea because ECM was VERY uncommon before the LRM speed increase.....

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 06:26 PM

View PostLoneMaverick, on 23 March 2014 - 06:11 AM, said:

brings out ECM?

...are you suggesting you haven't been playing games with atleast 2-3 ECM per team, if not more, before the LRM balance?
I'm suggesting that I've been noticing quite a few games of 5 and 6 ecm per team.

View PostSandpit, on 23 March 2014 - 09:44 AM, said:

yea because ECM was VERY uncommon before the LRM speed increase.....
Don't try to put words in my mouth

View PostDavers, on 23 March 2014 - 06:56 AM, said:

This thread has everything! Nerf LRMs, Nerf ECM, Nerf boating, Nerf PPCs, Nerf pin point damage, Nerf Atlases (specifically the D-DC). Bravo!
I didn't suggest that anything be nerfed, but way to over react. Hell the word nerf doesn't even apply to ECM b/c it doesn't do damage....hence it can't hit hard.... hence it can't be made to hit less hard by making the bat out of foam.... b/c you get the reference and all right

#10 A Man In A Can

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 06:34 PM

This is a natural process of cyclical imbalance which is actually a desirable trait for a never ending metagame.

Illustrative example:



Now why aren't these youtube vids showing automatically like they used to....

Edited by Mechwarrior Mousse, 25 March 2014 - 06:38 PM.


#11 Sandpit

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 06:35 PM

View PostOrdellus, on 23 March 2014 - 06:03 AM, said:

New LRMs are great....

but it brings out ECM and we're right back to having entire teams walk around invisible again...

PGI do what we're paying you for and fix the freaking game.

View PostOrdellus, on 23 March 2014 - 06:03 AM, said:

New LRMs are great....

but it brings out ECM and we're right back to having entire teams walk around invisible again...
.

View PostSandpit, on 23 March 2014 - 09:44 AM, said:

yea because ECM was VERY uncommon before the LRM speed increase.....

View PostOrdellus, on 25 March 2014 - 06:26 PM, said:


Don't try to put words in my mouth


sure thing chuckles

#12 No Guts No Glory

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 07:42 PM

What I've never understood is the need for ecm's "stealth" mode in a game with LOS radar.

Don't need to actually be sneaky and hunt your opponent from outside LOS of his radar, just equip an ecm.

I mean, I can't be the only one that thinks stealth should be gained from skilled movement and awareness rather than a 1.5 ton piece of equipment?

#13 Bhael Fire

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 08:08 PM

View PostDavers, on 23 March 2014 - 06:56 AM, said:

This thread has everything! Nerf LRMs, Nerf ECM, Nerf boating, Nerf PPCs, Nerf pin point damage, Nerf Atlases (specifically the D-DC). Bravo!


Everything except...Buff Lasers! Buff SRMS!!!!

(which they totally need to do...)

#14 Asmudius Heng

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 08:10 PM

View PostNo Guts No Glory, on 25 March 2014 - 07:42 PM, said:

What I've never understood is the need for ecm's "stealth" mode in a game with LOS radar.

Don't need to actually be sneaky and hunt your opponent from outside LOS of his radar, just equip an ecm.

I mean, I can't be the only one that thinks stealth should be gained from skilled movement and awareness rather than a 1.5 ton piece of equipment?


Passive and active sensors ... another thing PGI promised but never delivered.

If that was in before ECM we would have had a different game and a different ECM

#15 Ordellus

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 09:18 PM

View PostSandpit, on 25 March 2014 - 06:35 PM, said:

sure thing chuckles


View PostOrdellus, on 25 March 2014 - 06:26 PM, said:

I'm suggesting that I've been noticing quite a few games of 5 and 6 ecm per team.


Last time I checked: Less than 5 =/= "VERY uncommon", so yet again

View PostOrdellus, on 25 March 2014 - 06:26 PM, said:

Don't try to put words in my mouth


View PostBhael Fire, on 25 March 2014 - 08:08 PM, said:


Everything except...Buff Lasers! Buff SRMS!!!!

(which they totally need to do...)


Oh look someone else bringing up things that the thread never mentions. Real pro readers here.

#16 Lyoto Machida

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 10:05 PM

Lol...another awesome thread by TS. The same guy who accused people of using a "cheat" called Teamspeak in one of my games.

#17 KharnZor

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 10:11 PM

Yay yet another ecm is op thread.
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#18 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 03:36 AM

View PostOrdellus, on 25 March 2014 - 06:26 PM, said:

I'm suggesting that I've been noticing quite a few games of 5 and 6 ecm per team.

Don't try to put words in my mouth

I didn't suggest that anything be nerfed, but way to over react. Hell the word nerf doesn't even apply to ECM b/c it doesn't do damage....hence it can't hit hard.... hence it can't be made to hit less hard by making the bat out of foam.... b/c you get the reference and all right

You will have to excuse us... We went through 16 ECM on the field at a time already(8man)... Its nothing new for us really. ^_^





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