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#21 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 08:02 AM

I only rant about ranting... ;)

#22 Mister Blastman

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 08:07 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 10 April 2014 - 07:55 AM, said:

I woulda thought it would have been the reverse of that Blastman! :)


Well right, me too!

Yet here I am, with hit registration issues and a typically 40 - 60 ms. In fact, most of the time it is between 40 - 43 ms. I screenshot almost every drop so I have a big archive of ping times. ;)

You'd think worse pings would lead to worse registration but it doesn't seem like that for me.

#23 TexAce

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 08:07 AM

Usually never play with PPCs but tried 3 PPCs in one of my mechs yesterday and immediately noticed that when I shoot them separately one after another the red cross only appears 1-2 times even though they were spot on and I used 3 PPCs. It was in all matches.

also noticed the lasers doing really low damages. Got a Banshee with 5MLs, 2LPLs and an AC20 = about 60 damage.

Playing it in a match with alphaing multiple times (with the cross turning red) and constant brawling I often end up at 250-350 damage which is waaaay to low for all the hits I do.

Edited by TexAss, 10 April 2014 - 08:10 AM.


#24 Trauglodyte

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 09:38 AM

View PostThorqemada, on 10 April 2014 - 01:44 AM, said:

And PPC occasionally still like to hit the upper left corner of my Screen despite being aimed straight forward, i have not witnessed this behavior with any other weapon - very funny.^^


Known bug since CB and REALLY easy to replicate. But yeah, really funny.

#25 Rokuzachi

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 10:38 AM

You know hit reg is boned when you alpha strike an ally in the back by mistake, and it kills the enemy on the other side of him that you were aiming for.

#26 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 10:39 AM

View PostRokuzachi, on 10 April 2014 - 10:38 AM, said:

You know hit reg is boned when you alpha strike an ally in the back by mistake, and it kills the enemy on the other side of him that you were aiming for.

;) :)
I have never seen that happen! It would be awesome though!

#27 Rokuzachi

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 10:44 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 10 April 2014 - 10:39 AM, said:

;) :)
I have never seen that happen! It would be awesome though!


Yea, it's only happened once. Same with shooting through a piece of hard terrain and getting a kill on a light I was pursuing... he went around the corner, I fired too early and hit the building, he suddenly died to me even though he was completely out of sight lol.

#28 Mazzyplz

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 10:46 AM

View PostTexAss, on 10 April 2014 - 08:07 AM, said:

Usually never play with PPCs but tried 3 PPCs in one of my mechs yesterday and immediately noticed that when I shoot them separately one after another the red cross only appears 1-2 times even though they were spot on and I used 3 PPCs. It was in all matches.

also noticed the lasers doing really low damages. Got a Banshee with 5MLs, 2LPLs and an AC20 = about 60 damage.

Playing it in a match with alphaing multiple times (with the cross turning red) and constant brawling I often end up at 250-350 damage which is waaaay to low for all the hits I do.


my personal experience would confirm that. i also got a banshee 3m, and i also tried 3 and 4 ppc builds. just don't register.

multiple erppc does register though

#29 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 10:47 AM

All I ever get is solid hits on Ravens and no damage... I want your first world problems ;)

#30 Equalizer

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 10:50 AM

View PostMazzyplz, on 09 April 2014 - 04:50 PM, said:

bwahaha that's why i have been using ERPPC for all this time, notice they usually register way better for some reason

nobody listened when i pointed this out though!!
they keep telling me i am a newb for bringing such hot weapons, but you make the comparison... ppc vs erppc and which one actually lands on target


I've noticed it too and it's been like that for quite a while actually.... just thought it must have been my imagination since nobody ever mentioned it before.

#31 Rex Budman

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:06 PM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 10 April 2014 - 10:39 AM, said:

:blink: <_<
I have never seen that happen! It would be awesome though!


Haha dude are you serious? You haven't paid much attention then ;) I JJ and misfire only to hit the lip of the cliff in front of me, or the building in front of me, only to register a hit on the mech 5 odd hundred meters away, lol.

And also to the fellow who noticed chain fire multiple PPC's only had the crosshair register two reds - that happens all the time but MAY be a graphical bug error.

#32 Lyoto Machida

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:25 PM

View Posto0Marduk0o, on 10 April 2014 - 08:01 AM, said:

I wish I had issues like you guys, then I could come in here and rant like no tomorrow.


I'm guessing you do have issues but they're probably related to your personal life.

#33 o0Marduk0o

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 12:34 AM

View PostLyoto Machida, on 10 April 2014 - 04:25 PM, said:


I'm guessing you do have issues but they're probably related to your personal life.

Since when we are talking about personal issues in a video game forum? It should be pretty clear that it's about game related issues.

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:41 AM

View PostWarGruf, on 10 April 2014 - 02:22 AM, said:

Did you know that according to Twitter (I know right, no MWO Technical update for ages) the Hit registration is being shunted to the server side! This will help with all types of weapons hitting the target, including SRMs!!!!

I'm excited for the SRM fix to be in the pipeline and if the rest of the weapons benefit Bonus!!

And just incase your worried about the server not hacking it, that's why we had a 12 down time, Upgraded servers!! :)


Not true. The server side will not change the hit reg issues. Now you will see you weapon hit but your recticle won't turn red. All they are doing is having the server tell your client that you missed (right now, your client says you hit but the server ignores it which is the point of this thread...future your server will look like you hit but recticle and server will disagree). Still hit reg is broken.

Edited by Chemie, 11 April 2014 - 03:41 AM.


#35 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 04:36 AM

View PostRex Budman, on 10 April 2014 - 04:06 PM, said:


Haha dude are you serious? You haven't paid much attention then :) I JJ and misfire only to hit the lip of the cliff in front of me, or the building in front of me, only to register a hit on the mech 5 odd hundred meters away, lol.

And also to the fellow who noticed chain fire multiple PPC's only had the crosshair register two reds - that happens all the time but MAY be a graphical bug error.

Rex... I pay pretty good attention to the my quary and whether I am hitting or not and how I am hitting... I do not see it happen.

#36 Rex Budman

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 04:40 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 11 April 2014 - 04:36 AM, said:

Rex... I pay pretty good attention to the my quary and whether I am hitting or not and how I am hitting... I do not see it happen.


Happens when more-so in motion which suggest that Ping is the issue there. It happens to me a lot! But, that's, again, a latency issue so good latency shouldn't have that issue occur. Maybe once or twice I've no idea but on my end (and others apparently) it does happen.

#37 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 04:44 AM

View PostRex Budman, on 11 April 2014 - 04:40 AM, said:


Happens when more-so in motion which suggest that Ping is the issue there. It happens to me a lot! But, that's, again, a latency issue so good latency shouldn't have that issue occur. Maybe once or twice I've no idea but on my end (and others apparently) it does happen.

Oh I just ha a hour long lesson on Ping and game play influence... I am no amused. :)

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 04:48 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 11 April 2014 - 04:44 AM, said:

Oh I just ha a hour long lesson on Ping and game play influence... I am no amused. :)


Haha - and what did you learn? In my experience the only thing that latency and gaming has taught me is high = bad, low = good, and fluctuation = throw computer out window.

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 04:54 AM

hmmmm...


i did notice my PPC's every now and then would randomly fire up in to the corner of my screen.

tbh, i thought i just needed to lay off the weed.

*phew*

#40 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 05:01 AM

View PostRex Budman, on 11 April 2014 - 04:48 AM, said:


Haha - and what did you learn? In my experience the only thing that latency and gaming has taught me is high = bad, low = good, and fluctuation = throw computer out window.

I learned there is a sweet spot that can be hit if you route through certain cities. Depending on your starting location, and those doing it feel it is the only way to, "Improve their game". Personally I feel that if that is true you don't have game. :)





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