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[Court]

First, since mechs cost bundles of money, and have all this high-tech and all, it is hard to believe that they can't figure out how to attach a rearview mirror. Or at least a rear sensor system. Some of the Inner Sphere mechs even had rear firing weapons, they weren't blind fire systems, either. Seriously.
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[Zerberus]

The clans ARE the descendants of the former SLDF, so they`re about as close to a "Star League Faction" that 3050 will offer

[Soulscour]

The most advanced military vehicles in the real world today do not have rear view mirrors. I'm certain the ones in the fantasy world future do not need them either.

[PhoenixFire55]

Spatial awareness is OP.

[Joseph Mallan]

Soulscour, on 21 April 2014 - 03:13 AM, said:

The most advanced military vehicles in the real world today do not have rear view mirrors. I'm certain the ones in the fantasy world future do not need them either.

My car has a back up camera.... I am sure some contractor would be happy to charge teh government 15X the cost to install rear facing cameras!

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 21 April 2014 - 03:24 AM.

[Dracol]

On the technical side of things, a rearview is like the picture in picture zoom..... To do it properly would be to render the scene twice. Which is just to intensify CPU/GPU wise to make viable. The advanced zoom module simulates this by just enlarging the already rendered pixels. There is just no option to do a rearview mirror like that.

Now, to make it where you are either looking forward or backwards (not both like once which rearview mirror or a backup cam monitor would do) would be possible. But imho it would not be all that useful, Turning the mech around would be just as efficient as switching to a rearview.

Edited by Dracol, 21 April 2014 - 04:14 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Drac, flip a switch and My rear camera takes over v trying to turn around with a Mech that only goes 50 KpH.... allow me to pull the switch.

[Bobzilla]

No rear camera, but smoke blocks my cockpit if i'm shot in the back, that makes total sense.

But seriously, comming up behind someone has a tatical use. Which is why our high tech sensors aren't 360 degrees, it's part of the game.

[Joseph Mallan]

Bobzilla, on 21 April 2014 - 04:50 AM, said:

No rear camera, but smoke blocks my cockpit if i'm shot in the back, that makes total sense.

But seriously, comming up behind someone has a tatical use. Which is why our high tech sensors aren't 360 degrees, it's part of the game.

Rear camera doesn't need to be 360 24/7. AS stated a PiP like our Advanced zoom would be perfect.

[MonkeyDCecil]

I would kill for a backup camera. They had one in MW4. And I think they had one in the other MW games too. For me it is just start laziness or lack of skill, that we do not have a back up camera.

[Dracol]

Joseph Mallan, on 21 April 2014 - 04:41 AM, said:

Drac, flip a switch and My rear camera takes over v trying to turn around with a Mech that only goes 50 KpH.... allow me to pull the switch.

Ah, ok I will give you that one, slow boats would benefit from it. It didn't cross my mind since I don't pilot anything slower then 70kph.

And for PiP rearview, as stated, the requirement that it needs to rerender the scene would be to GPU/CPU intensive. The PiP of the advance zoom only magnifies the pixels already rendered, a technique a rearview wouldn't be able to use since it is pointed in the complete opposite direction the first render is facing.

[Joseph Mallan]

The Limitations of present Computers suck sometimes!

[Bobzilla]

Joseph Mallan, on 21 April 2014 - 04:53 AM, said:

Rear camera doesn't need to be 360 24/7. AS stated a PiP like our Advanced zoom would be perfect.

Like I said, hiding in someone's blind spot is part of the game. Even if you know someone is behind you, you don't know their direction or distance or even their location if they duck behind cover before you turn around. Lets not dumb the game down, or create another useless 3pv type debacle.

[Dracol]

Joseph Mallan, on 21 April 2014 - 05:23 AM, said:

The Limitations of present Computers suck sometimes!

Yes they do. Then again, back in the days of MW2 there were like 18 total polygons for terrain..... ah the simpler times.

[Mcgral18]

Bobzilla, on 21 April 2014 - 05:46 AM, said:

Like I said, hiding in someone's blind spot is part of the game. Even if you know someone is behind you, you don't know their direction or distance or even their location if they duck behind cover before you turn around. Lets not dumb the game down, or create another useless 3pv type debacle.

Well, 360 degree views are canon.

But those could get pretty confusing.

[mekabuser]

you , we, dont have any features because the owners of the IP are cheap AND highly incompetent. THis is a community of nostalgic fools who deserve FAR better than this pile of excrement.

[Simbacca]

The only solution I have to this problem is "Crazy Ivan" - every so often turning looking to my rear if I believe the situation warrants it. Even with a rear view, the mech's sensors only look in a 90 degree forward arc of the turret...

Edited by Simbacca, 21 April 2014 - 06:22 AM.

[Lootee]

They are supposed to have them. Or have 360 degree panoramic images piped directly into the neurohelmet.

The Battlemaster is supposed to have 2 rear firing lasers and the Jagermech can flip its arms over its head to fire directly behind it.

But MWO has no rear mounted weapons or rear view (or leg mounted weapons, ArrowIV, MASC, or even teams with 12 active players on both sides) simply because PGI.

Edited by PanchoTortilla, 21 April 2014 - 07:10 AM.

[Craig Steele]

MonkeyDCecil, on 21 April 2014 - 05:02 AM, said:

I would kill for a backup camera. They had one in MW4. And I think they had one in the other MW games too. For me it is just start laziness or lack of skill, that we do not have a back up camera.

What about a reverse tone too?

An audible beeping that tells the mech behind that you are moving backwards so they don't block you in?

We could have reverse lights too for the same purpose.

[Dracol]

Craig Steele, on 21 April 2014 - 06:31 AM, said:

What about a reverse tone too?

An audible beeping that tells the mech behind that you are moving backwards so they don't block you in?

We could have reverse lights too for the same purpose.

I'd pay really money to have a giant Neon sign light up on my Mech's back saying "Reversing, move NOW!"