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[Crazy Danish]

Hi all!

When I initially heard about MWO I was hyped and bought into a founders pack. Didn't take me long to join one of the Clans of the time and run up hundreds of hours in beta with a game that had a lot of potential in a genre I love.

Unfortunatly, things started going south:

• 12v12 waiting ques
  
• tonnage mis-matching
  
• poptarts
  
• alpha metagame
  
• cool Shots
  
• 3rd person view
  
• rediclous costing

So around about october I stopped cold; about the time poptart PPCs and AC20 alphas were dominant.


Suffice to say I got bored and reminiced today. Updated my game and had a quick peak at the Clan release, new UI and a few maps... cant say much has improved but that may be the old man in me thinking of the "...good old days".

So to those of you who've had more stamina than me: what'd you think?
Is PGI going the right way or is the SOS sounding?

Danish

Edited by Egomane, 27 April 2014 - 05:11 AM.

[Turist0AT]

Its in pretty bad shape. Keep waiting.

About rediculous costing, now you can buy gold mechs to suffer ghost heat in. only 500 bucks.

http://mwomercs.com/...tions-remaining

Edited by Turist0AT, 27 April 2014 - 02:58 AM.

[Training Instructor]

Not worth coming back to. Pinpoint conversion meta still rules.

[Zerberus]

Since any positive comments will be met with incessant accusations of white knighting from the Cryhards and Black Knights, why does it even make sense to ask? As a forum member here, you`re either biased strongly against the game and the only thing you wish is for it to burn in fire, or you`re an "undercover PGI employee"... So this is hardly the place I`d go for an informed opinion and levelheaded discussion acknowledging that both sides of the coin do in fact exist..

So I honestly recommend you just play and find out for yourself, because all you`ll read here is bashing, white knighting, bashing white knights, and accusations of being uninformed /stupid (which in many cases will in fact be true)

Edited by Zerberus, 27 April 2014 - 03:06 AM.

[RedDragon]

As someone who recently played again a few matches (to get that free mech bay) after a long time (must have stopped playing around the same time as you, October or so, did not once use one of my new Phoenix mechs), I can tell you it's even worse now.
The new UI is so abominable, I just can't get my head around how any game designer worth a cent would release something like this. Took me ages just to find the most basic features and those are so complicated to use it's not even funny any more.
And the game itself? Well, performance-wise it runs a lot worse than previously (at least for me), they have an ugly cockpit-glass feature now, some people use 3rd person view which results in some ridiculous drones chasing their mechs, the Gauss has a recharge mechanic that must be the worst weapon mechanic I ever encountered in a game, jump snipers are still prevalent, as is PPC+AC meta... yes, all in all I had to struggle through those few matches I did to win that free mech bay. Didn't have that much fun. Not to forget still no lobbies, no ingame communication and no CW.

[Revorn]

Crazy Danish, on 27 April 2014 - 02:50 AM, said:

• 12v12 waiting ques

You can easy find 12 vs 12 Games

Crazy Danish, on 27 April 2014 - 02:50 AM, said:

• tonnage mis-matching

Should be cleared with the 3/3/3/3 at next Patch.

Crazy Danish, on 27 April 2014 - 02:50 AM, said:

• poptarts

In 12 vs 12 there are manny in PUGs not so much.

Crazy Danish, on 27 April 2014 - 02:50 AM, said:

• alpha metagame

As it was ever, oki the Gaus has changed to 2 AC5 now, but Alpha rules.

Crazy Danish, on 27 April 2014 - 02:50 AM, said:

• cool Shots

Only for the Hot build, but not as much as before

Crazy Danish, on 27 April 2014 - 02:50 AM, said:

• 3rd person view

Still ingame but only a few usig it sometimes for the optic.

Crazy Danish, on 27 April 2014 - 02:50 AM, said:

• rediclous costing

Is relative and depends on your Wallet.

Edited by Revorn, 27 April 2014 - 03:09 AM.

[Lyoto Machida]

Crazy Danish, on 27 April 2014 - 02:50 AM, said:

Hi all!

When I initially heard about MWO I was hyped and bought into a founders pack. Didn't take me long to join one of the Clans of the time and run up hundreds of hours in beta with a game that had a lot of potential in a genre I love.

Unfortunatly, things started going south:

• 12v12 waiting ques
  
• tonnage mis-matching
  
• poptarts
  
• alpha metagame
  
• cool Shots
  
• 3rd person view
  
• rediclous costing

So around about october I stopped cold; about the time poptart PPCs and AC20 alphas were dominant.


Suffice to say I got bored and reminiced today. Updated my game and had a quick peak at the Clan release, new UI and a few maps... cant say much has improved but that may be the old man in me thinking of the "...good old days".

So to those of you who've had more stamina than me: what'd you think?
Is PGI going the right way or is the SOS sounding?

Danish

Just play the damn game and see for yourself.

[Crazy Danish]

Zerberus, on 27 April 2014 - 03:03 AM, said:

As a forum member here, you`re either biased strongly against the game and the only thing you wish is for it to burn in fire, or you`re an "undercover PGI employee"...

Neither to be honest. Never been that active here due to running with a large outfit at the time. As for PGI? I hurt sir! Wrong side of the atlantic.

Have been trundeling about with my old builds but I've seen every little difference as Training Instructor plainly put. Hence more interested in the bigger picture of whats going down on both PGIs and the communities end. I have, literally, not been paying any attention to MWO since I last dropped.

Also, $500 for a custom paint job? Jez, either they're broke or wallowing in money. Maybe the game isn't the issue then.

[CheeseThief]

Come back in 4 days.

Private matches and SRM fixes to shake everything up.

[Zerberus]

Crazy Danish, on 27 April 2014 - 03:12 AM, said:

Neither to be honest. Never been that active here due to running with a large outfit at the time. As for PGI? I hurt sir! Wrong side of the atlantic....

I wasn`t talking about you specifically , but about the forum populace in general, sorry if that wasn`t clear. Just stating that as a general rule people either bash the game with or without good cause, support the game, or bash those supporting the game because they can`t think of intelligent arguments, and that that makes for a not so clear view of the actual status quo.

Though from the way you`re already making the same pseudo-informed hyperbolic statements as the Black Knights and Cryhards ("Also, $500 for a custom paint job?" = you saw 500 and suddenly didn`t care about or remember ANYTHING else you read on the entire page before that, like the 24 other mechs + bays delivered BEFORE c-bill release, premium time, and diverse goodies), I do think I already know how which side you are probably on

Edited by Zerberus, 27 April 2014 - 03:33 AM.

[Crazy Danish]

RedDragon, on 27 April 2014 - 03:07 AM, said:

As someone who recently played again a few matches (to get that free mech bay) after a long time (must have stopped playing around the same time as you, October or so, did not once use one of my new Phoenix mechs), I can tell you it's even worse now.
The new UI is so abominable, I just can't get my head around how any game designer worth a cent would release something like this. Took me ages just to find the most basic features and those are so complicated to use it's not even funny any more.
And the game itself? Well, performance-wise it runs a lot worse than previously (at least for me), they have an ugly cockpit-glass feature now, some people use 3rd person view which results in some ridiculous drones chasing their mechs, the Gauss has a recharge mechanic that must be the worst weapon mechanic I ever encountered in a game, jump snipers are still prevalent, as is PPC+AC meta... yes, all in all I had to struggle through those few matches I did to win that free mech bay. Didn't have that much fun. Not to forget still no lobbies, no ingame communication and no CW.

So the UI isn't just me then? Does look prettier but otherwise entirely backwards. Thought I'd been missing something. And that explains those drones! Hadn't a clue what they were. Can they be taken out? Been unsuccessful so far.

I thought CW was ment to be implimented months ago?

Lyoto Machida, on 27 April 2014 - 03:10 AM, said:

Just play the damn game and see for yourself.

And that attitude is why I never bothered with these forums in the first place. Done that and as explained in my 2nd post this is more about other peoples opinions; they usually include historical info and the larger picture surrounding the game mechanics itself.
Ta for your very constructive input though.

[Josef Nader]

The game itself is solid, and despite what you'll hear on the forums, PGI is hitting a steady content release schedule and is finally starting to hit some dates. We haven't gotten any -major- features yet, but they've been constantly rolling out new stuff for the past several weeks that have helped the game feel rounded out. Things like achievements, daily sales (ranging from 30-50% off), and the upcoming private matches have been some of the first very visible improvements in months.

As far as balance, as someone who owns and runs 65+ mechs across the spectrum, and who runs a huge variety of builds with weapons both good and bad, let me just say that a lot of people who play this game are a lot less skilled than they think they are, and are very inflexible in how they play. The balance changes have made huge improvements on my end, and the number of "bad" mechs in my garage is dwindling down to none. Some have a higher skill cap than others, but all of them are viable now.

Edited by Josef Nader, 27 April 2014 - 03:32 AM.

[Lyoto Machida]

Crazy Danish, on 27 April 2014 - 03:21 AM, said:

So the UI isn't just me then? Does look prettier but otherwise entirely backwards. Thought I'd been missing something. And that explains those drones! Hadn't a clue what they were. Can they be taken out? Been unsuccessful so far.

I thought CW was ment to be implimented months ago?



And that attitude is why I never bothered with these forums in the first place. Done that and as explained in my 2nd post this is more about other peoples opinions; they usually include historical info and the larger picture surrounding the game mechanics itself.
Ta for your very constructive input though.

This isn't like some huge purchase, where you're researching a new car, house or a college for your kid. It's a free to play game with no risk. Why not actually see for yourself how it's going and pass judgement for yourself? If you like it, play it...if not, wait a bit longer and see. It's not a life changing decision here...

[Turist0AT]

Zerberus, on 27 April 2014 - 03:18 AM, said:

I wasn`t talking about you specifically , but about the forum populace in general, sorry if that wasn`t clear.

Though from the way you`re already making the same pseudo-informed hyperbolic statements as the Black Knights and Cryhards ("Also, $500 for a custom paint job?" = you saw 500 and suddenly didn`t care about or remember ANYTHING else you read on the entire page before that, like the 24 other mechs + bays delivered BEFORE c-bill release, premium time, and diverse goodies), I do think I already know how which side you are probably on

You seem to forget that the Cryhards and Blacknights made that you can have those 24 other mechs and bays.

[Smitti]

RedDragon, on 27 April 2014 - 03:07 AM, said:

...the Gauss has a recharge mechanic that must be the worst weapon mechanic I ever encountered in a game...

What, no other game on the planet has a charge mechanic on a big weapon? Please...

That said, yes it sucks. Blame poptarters and high-alpha meta for that.

Edited by Smittiferous, 27 April 2014 - 03:31 AM.

[Iqfish]

Crazy Danish, on 27 April 2014 - 02:50 AM, said:

• 12v12 waiting ques
  
• tonnage mis-matching
  
• poptarts
  
• alpha metagame
  
• cool Shots
  
• 3rd person view
  
• rediclous costing

Your view is 100% biased and you don't really want to come back.
You just read over the forums, thought it would be funny to make a "lay a fire" post and now you are waiting for funny replies from people who hate the game, PGI and especially Paul I. because he is the spawn of all bad things.

ggclose

Edited by Iqfish, 27 April 2014 - 03:32 AM.

[Crazy Danish]

Zerberus, on 27 April 2014 - 03:18 AM, said:

I wasn`t talking about you specifically , but about the forum populace in general, sorry if that wasn`t clear.

Though from the way you`re already making the same pseudo-informed hyperbolic statements as the Black Knights and Cryhards ("Also, $500 for a custom paint job?" = you saw 500 and suddenly didn`t care about or remember ANYTHING else you read on the entire page before that, like the 24 other mechs + bays delivered BEFORE c-bill release, premium time, and diverse goodies), I do think I already know how which side you are probably on

Iqfish, on 27 April 2014 - 03:30 AM, said:

Your view is 100% biased and you don't really want to come back.
You just read over the forums, thought it would be funny to make a "lay a fire" post and now you are waiting for funny replies from people who hate the game, PGI and especially Paul I. because he is the spawn of all bad things.

I started this post specifically because I was interested in forking out $240 on the masakari pack and wanted to know whether that was worthwhile. Then I read some blogs about the t0-ing and fro-ing between the community and PGI... so I put the wallet away and went to seek a more direct audience. Here.

I'm quickly getting the impression that I'm being treated as a Troll. Sorry to see that thats the expected culture of the community these days!

Josef Nader, on 27 April 2014 - 03:23 AM, said:

The game itself is solid, and despite what you'll hear on the forums, PGI is hitting a steady content release schedule and is finally starting to hit some dates. We haven't gotten any -major- features yet, but they've been constantly rolling out new stuff for the past several weeks that have helped the game feel rounded out. Things like achievements, daily sales (ranging from 30-50% off), and the upcoming private matches have been some of the first very visible improvements in months.

As far as balance, as someone who owns and runs 65+ mechs across the spectrum, and who runs a huge variety of builds with weaoons both good and bad, let me just say that a lot of people who play this game are a lot less skilled than they think they are, and are very inflexible in how they play. The balance changes have made huge improvements on my end, and the number of "bad" mechs in my garage is dwindling down to none. Some have a higher skill cap than others, but all of them are viable now.

Thanks Josef, glad to see a supporting oppinion! Always been of the opinion too that you can get most chassis to run well as long as you use it right. The team balancing, shorter ques and soon-to-be private matches sound fantastic!

Edited by Crazy Danish, 27 April 2014 - 03:38 AM.

[Zerberus]

Turist0AT, on 27 April 2014 - 03:29 AM, said:

You seem to forget that the Cryhards and Blacknights made that you can have those 24 other mechs and bays.

And yet they continue to whine about it even after getting their way,,, just like they did with skirmish moide, just like they did with the LRM buff and renerf, just like they`ll do with the next thing...

There`s a significant difference between having an actual gripe and just choosing whatever annoys you at that particuilar second and painting a pentagram around it so you can accuse it of being the devil and completely disregard anything that happened before or after that point in time.


Danish: I didn`t thint you were trolling, nor did I accuse you of it, but your thin skin is not my problem. YOu asked for opinions, and in teh very first rebuttal to the very first post that was not obviously con-pgi /MWO you "decided" to post the exact same willfully ignorant exaggerations that most of the trolls do in fact post....

So even though didn`t think you were a troll, how exactly was anyone supposed to NOT think you were one after that? I still grant you the benefit of the doubt, but I honestly don`t care, becasue it`s no skin off my back either way.

My personol opinion of hte game is exactly the same as that of JN, but unlike those that posted before me I have no vested interest in scaring off returning players and /or starting fights, which ALWAYS break out as soon as the first actually positive opinion get`s posted in any "what you dou think of (X)" thread..... I`m sorry you misinterpreted my attempt at allowing you to make up your own mind instead of being force fed an opinion by teh forumwarriors. But that`s not my problem, either.

Edited by Zerberus, 27 April 2014 - 03:52 AM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Zerberus, on 27 April 2014 - 03:03 AM, said:

Since any positive comments will be met with incessant accusations of white knighting from the Cryhards and Black Knights, why does it even make sense to ask? As a forum member here, you`re either biased strongly against the game and the only thing you wish is for it to burn in fire, or you`re an "undercover PGI employee"... So this is hardly the place I`d go for an informed opinion and levelheaded discussion acknowledging that both sides of the coin do in fact exist..

So I honestly recommend you just play and find out for yourself, because all you`ll read here is bashing, white knighting, bashing white knights, and accusations of being uninformed /stupid (which in many cases will in fact be true)

yep. when i made my UI 2.0 and the reason why nothing Else is Here thread, that was the first place i got labled a white knight. That was a year ago, when the thought of saying anything nice about Pgi on the forums was unheard of.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 27 April 2014 - 03:44 AM.

[RedDragon]

Smittiferous, on 27 April 2014 - 03:29 AM, said:

What, no other game on the planet has a charge mechanic on a big weapon? Please...

As far as I know, no other game has a mechanic that makes a weapon you are supposed to use simultaneously with other weapons charge for a moment, just to give you a tiny time frame to fire it before discharging again.