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#1 Marstorius

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:09 PM

Why is it that after every patch this game gets less fun to play and has a longer que to join a game. I think PGI is going to patch themselves out of existence.

Stop worring about the cry babies because you can't patch their skill and trying to make everyone the same is a reciepe for failure. You give us the tools if people dont use them then they will get farmed because all they are is sheep anyway. Don't give us the tools then try to make us use them the way you think we should because it wouldnt be fair to someone that has no clue. We all can't have a trophy. If this is the case than the trophy is meaningless.

If I can do over 600 damage in a spider and over 600 in a assault in a round then why this rule?

#2 Dymlos2003

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:12 PM

Jesus... the patch is out for like 10 minutes and whiners come out

#3 DEN_Ninja

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:14 PM

View PostDymlos2003, on 29 April 2014 - 12:12 PM, said:

Jesus... the patch is out for like 10 minutes and whiners come out


I feel like the people who are the most hardliner whiners don't actually play the game. Sure you can be angry at some overall gameplay mechanics but once you talk about the details and balance then I just blankly stare at the page and skip it.

You have no real frame of reference if you don't even play this game anymore.

-shrug-

#4 Blackfang

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:16 PM

I think it's a move in the right direction, was fed up of seeing squads of 7-10 assault mechs on the battlefield.

#5 AlmightyAeng

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:17 PM

3/3/3/3 is now off.

http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__3334077

#6 Odins Fist

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:17 PM

4 no shows and a DISCO in first game I dropped into...
Cannot pick which game mode I wish to play in public match..

Just a "FAIL" all the way around.

#7 DerMaulwurf

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:17 PM

Since it's more like 1-1-1-1, I'll defer judgment for now.

#8 tayhimself

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:18 PM

View PostTichorius Davion, on 29 April 2014 - 12:14 PM, said:

You have no real frame of reference if you don't even play this game anymore.

No one plays this game anymore considering that the matchmaker is broken. Back we go to regular drops. Does this patch have SRM fixes in it too? Saw no mention in the patch notes.

#9 MischiefSC

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:20 PM

I had 2 matches with 3/3/3/3.

They were 2 great matches. 3/3/3/3 was awesome.

I want it back. Soon. Fast. Please.

#10 DEMAX51

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:24 PM

View Posttayhimself, on 29 April 2014 - 12:18 PM, said:

No one plays this game anymore considering that the matchmaker is broken. Back we go to regular drops. Does this patch have SRM fixes in it too? Saw no mention in the patch notes.


From the patch notes:

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- Fixed a server side issue where explosion effects were being queued across multiple frames resulting in damage being applied at the wrong time.


According to Paul there's another SRM fix in the works too, but they couldn't get it in this patch.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:25 PM

View PostMischiefSC, on 29 April 2014 - 12:20 PM, said:

I had 2 matches with 3/3/3/3.

They were 2 great matches. 3/3/3/3 was awesome.

I want it back. Soon. Fast. Please.


I was only able to get one true 3/3/3/3 game and it was great. The team actually played as a team and the weight classes actually filled a tiny bit of their role... Then I got into three 2v5, 3v6 sort of games as they tried to reboot the matchmaker.

Is the real problem with 3/3/3/3 hangups just people not wanting to drive anything other than their Metasults?

#12 MischiefSC

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:31 PM

3/3/3/3, suddenly you can reasonably expect what your team will do. We were all on the same page - we had 3 slow assaults, 3 escort/push heavies, 3 fast/flexible mediums and 3 light scouts/harassers.

We all knew, without any chat, what would work best because we all knew what our team was like and in general what to expect from the other team.

It came down to skill and execution. The playing field for 'who brought what' was far more level. That was dramatic.

I want it back. I miss it.

#13 Agent of Change

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:32 PM

View Postlukerduker2, on 29 April 2014 - 12:25 PM, said:


I was only able to get one true 3/3/3/3 game and it was great. The team actually played as a team and the weight classes actually filled a tiny bit of their role... Then I got into three 2v5, 3v6 sort of games as they tried to reboot the matchmaker.

Is the real problem with 3/3/3/3 hangups just people not wanting to drive anything other than their Metasults?


It might be that in part, but the truth of it is the game lacks the depth to encourage anything but a face punching meta. Thereby driving the prevalence of metasuits, thereby essentially grinding the matchmaker to a halt when said meta suits can't be used all but exclusively by the player base.

In short we finally have the only answer to why you shouldn't only ever run an assault mech that we've ever gotten... because the 3-3-3-3 match maker will punish you (if it were still on that is). That is the wrong way to approach it. Missions with some depth, multiple potential routes to victory etc... would be good ways. Encourage good play 50/50 with mechanics and incentive, this this was just a heavy handed mechanical short-cut that is little more than shoe-horning and it surprises me not that they are having issues with it, as many of us predicted they would.

But this is all nothing new to people who have been around for a while.

Edited by Agent of Change, 29 April 2014 - 12:33 PM.


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:32 PM

View Postlukerduker2, on 29 April 2014 - 12:25 PM, said:



I was only able to get one true 3/3/3/3 game and it was great. The team actually played as a team and the weight classes actually filled a tiny bit of their role... Then I got into three 2v5, 3v6 sort of games as they tried to reboot the matchmaker.

Is the real problem with 3/3/3/3 hangups just people not wanting to drive anything other than their Metasults?


So what you going to do with the new people who think Atlas is the endgame mech, saved to buy and is only mech they have? I am sure there are quite a few who did that.

#15 Ngamok

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:34 PM

View PostDymlos2003, on 29 April 2014 - 12:12 PM, said:

Jesus... the patch is out for like 10 minutes and whiners come out


Not only that, but there are at least 5 other threads about this.

#16 Varik Ronain

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:36 PM

I patched as soon as it was back online. The guys at Comstar Irregulars were doing a big private match so none of us even got a chance to q in the 3/3/3/3 format. I am sure we were not the only unit in private while the public matchmaker was acting up. perhaps a large portion of the playerbase was simply not trying to drop in public games so the match maker was having issues matching teams to build around?

#17 AlmightyAeng

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:37 PM

View PostDymlos2003, on 29 April 2014 - 12:12 PM, said:

Jesus... the patch is out for like 10 minutes and PGI turned off 3/3/3/3.


FYFY.

#18 BARBAR0SSA

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:42 PM

3/3/3/3 is more in line with a BV system than the current method and EVERYONE demanded something like a BV system to be implemented.

It's a step in that direction at least, and hopefully just a temporary solution.

I will take whatever doesn't give me 9 pop tarts on 1 side or 8 Assaults.

#19 AntiCitizenJuan

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:46 PM

Really? Because I've been dropping in my Griffins and getting a game in 10 seconds or less.

Maybe you should try rolling a mech that isnt an Assault.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:47 PM

View PostAntiCitizenJuan, on 29 April 2014 - 12:46 PM, said:

Really? Because I've been dropping in my Griffins and getting a game in 10 seconds or less.

Maybe you should try rolling a mech that isnt an Assault.


Before or after they turned of 3/3/3/3? It's currently off.





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