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[Charronn]

Last 2 days I've been on the 0-12,2-12,1-12 team.Game after game.
The enemy teams always seem to know where to go,stay together and have the uber platoon in it.
Mine is the exact opposite.
2 days ago I was nearly upto 50/50 with my w/l ratio and now that's taken a severe hit after fail team after fail team.
I'm just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this coz I'm starting to get effed off with it.Fair enough if the games are close,I personally don't mind getting beat if it's a good close match but these rollovers are severely draining my enjoyment of an otherwise good game.
Last match was the tipping point,0-12.That's right,not 1 enemy was killed.Bloody embarrassing .
I know losing streaks happen but 1-12, 2-12 etc nearly every frickin game is just shite.
The 0-12 just put the tin lid on it for me.

Edited by Egomane, 01 May 2014 - 11:23 PM.

[crossflip]

It's all just luck. I've actually been seeing a lot more close games recently. The past four games I've played were 10-12, 12-7, 8-12 and an amazing 11-12 match. But yes, most of the time mechs fall like dominoes once the first one pops and the firepower advantage is established.

[T0ADKILLERD0G]

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[Bhelogan]

I see this a lot when I drop solo as well. Really, I probably win 20% of my games solo. It doesn't matter if I do 500 - 800 damage 1 - 3 kills in average in these cases, I still hit massive streaks of terrible teams. Granted, sometimes when I am group dropping, we are the reason YOU are having a bad game. (either because we were your premade and didn't do our part, or because we were the premade on the other side and did)

[Dawnstealer]

I've noticed it's a timing thing. (Local time - West Coast) when I'm in the afternoon games, they're fun, relatively evenly matched, but as soon as evening rolls around, the prebuilts start dropping and pugging becomes pointless.

[Koniving]

East coast USA, when the sun goes down the matchmaker changes... Especially when the moon is full (not really but at night, seriously, something happens most likely with the decline in players as people go to bed). Matches become extremely unbalanced and things... impossible things...happen.

[Flak Kannon]

Hi Charronn,

I can understand the frustration.

It happens form time to time where you are on the short end of the stick, but ELO is made to keep a 1-1 W/L ratio for players.

Can you get above that? Yes, can you go below that, yes.

Example -

I was at 5 wins over .500 a couple days ago coming out of the server wipe of old stats. I won 12-14 straight matches over a couple short gaming sessions. Had great, great teams, and won some stomps and won some close matches...

Yesterday, being near +20 over .500, I lost like 8 out of 10 matches. It sucks during those losing streaks, but it will happen. But the bright side, you will have some of those 7 out of 9 win streaks in matches also.


Just stick with it, and remember, have as much fun as you can, even during the losses...


I have 6000 +, maybe 7,000 + drops.. so there has been many, many ups and downs.

[Noob Weapons]

Make a friend on MWO. I drop mostly by myself or with one other person, and its incredible what two people can do when they focus on the same mech.

Otherwise, I'm still positive on Win/Loss when I drop solo because I find someone I recognize from a previous game, and treat them as if I were dropping with them. I watch what target they are on, and I focus the same guy.

Sure, sometimes people do stupid stuff like crowd into the edge of the volcano and get blown up by the enemy team, but the rest of the team is no excuse for what you can contribute to the fight by playing smart.

[One of Little Harmony]

Charronn, on 01 May 2014 - 11:58 AM, said:

Last 2 days I've been on the 0-12,2-12,1-12 team.Game after game.
The enemy teams always seem to know where to go,stay together and have the uber platoon in it.
Mine is the exact opposite.
2 days ago I was nearly upto 50/50 with my w/l ratio and now that's taken a severe hit after fail team after fail team.
I'm just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this coz I'm starting to get effed off with it.Fair enough if the games are close,I personally don't mind getting beat if it's a good close match but these rollovers are severely draining my enjoyment of an otherwise good game.
Last match was the tipping point,0-12.That's right,not 1 enemy was killed.Bloody embarrassing .
I know losing streaks happen but 1-12, 2-12 etc nearly every frickin game is just shite.
The 0-12 just put the tin lid on it for me.

Yeah, it happens when you're supposed to be the (relatively) high elo player carrying your team...except you don't.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Dawnstealer, on 01 May 2014 - 02:20 PM, said:

(Local time - West Coast)

Koniving, on 01 May 2014 - 02:26 PM, said:

East coast USA, when the sun goes down the matchmaker changes...

And then there is me - sitting up here in Alaska - playing in the evenings.....
Utter chaos.

Lotsa good teams, lotsa bad teams, lotsa chaos, lots fun

[Votanin FleshRender]

I'm too old to be hip on a lot of the newer (i.e. within the last 15 years) games, but MWO is the absolute most brutal experience for a new player I have ever seen in anything. Maybe that's normal for games nowadays, but I wouldn't know. I've ragequit twice, but I keep playing, somewhat, and am very much excited for the 3/3/3/3 to hopefully balance things (not that weight matters much, I've lost when I had 6+ assaults on my team, I've lost when the other team had 6+ lights).

Losing streaks like that are nothing, don't get me started. I've been playing a month and a half and the night you describe is pretty normal for me

[Void Angel]

Koniving, on 01 May 2014 - 02:26 PM, said:

East coast USA, when the sun goes down the matchmaker changes... Especially when the moon is full (not really but at night, seriously, something happens most likely with the decline in players as people go to bed). Matches become extremely unbalanced and things... impossible things...happen.

You see that with a lot of games. Basically, outside the normal daylight hours of major global population centers for the game (which may be just the country of origin, or broader depending on popularity) you end up with drastically different player demographics. Lots more people are playing tired, or juiced up on caffeine or other substances - or are just the kind of player who wants to treat the game (and therefore other people's time) as a sort of passive entertainment, like interactive TV. There's still other kinds of gamers in the mix, but the kinds that take life less seriously are much more prominent. The effect is noticeable, and painful if you're actually trying to succeed, because of the increased randomness of your teammates' actions.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Votanin FleshRender, on 01 May 2014 - 03:33 PM, said:

Maybe that's normal for games nowadays, but I wouldn't know.

Actually it is very unusual - most of us more dedicated gamers have been complaining that they have been getting to easy.

Glad to hear you are sticking around though - not so glad to hear how upset it has been making you.
If you want a not-overly-crappy teammate, go ahead and send me an ingame friend invite, and if I am on when you are I am probably willing to do at least a few drops with you.

[Takashi Uchida]

I think it's easy to remember all the times one has been stomped 12-3, while forgetting that one has been on the winning side of such an affair several times as well. With the recent chaos of organized 12-mans coming up against a team of pugs, I've been playing sparingly over the past couple days and will probably do so until most of the (big) kinks are ironed out.

I can relate to your frustration though. Over the past few weeks I've probably had a net loss of about 40 games, which is a lot for someone who has only been playing since early this year. However, I attibute that to me grinding through a few freshly bought mechs and variants that I probably just don't mesh well with. If this is what you are going through as well, I'd suggest taking out your "old reliable" if you've got one.

Yea, I know one shouldn't get hung up on numbers, but it can be discouraging when you do very well and then hit a big landslide. But perhaps that's just the matchmaker trying to even you out. I would recommend finding a few people to drop with (whether a dedicated group or randoms on the comstar or NGNG teamspeak). It really does help. If you are a halfway decent pilot, you should see your numbers go up when you join forces with other decent pilots. It makes the losses more tolerable too, as you can joke about it afterwards and quickly start another game.

[luxebo]

For myself, I often see very unbalanced games, usually through the lack of being a team in total. If you're having trouble OP, the best thing to do is to maybe take command yourself and turn the tide. On one game in Tourmaline Desert, it was off to a bad bad start with two guys downed quick. It seemed like the match would become a sniper only match in which my team would lose badly in due to most of them being brawlers with a handful of long range fighters (we were against the enemy team on the ridge and my own team was in the F5 area or where the dropship wreckage is), so I took command and we flanked them, killing off their multiple missile boats quick and surrounding the ridge, winning the battle epicly. So sometimes, good strategies and leadership can go a long way.

On the other hand, I do see the games similar to how you describe it OP. This is usually caused by either matchmaking itself, or because of a poor team. Another game I had before was on Terra Therma. This loss was caused by the terrible team strategy from beginning to end. It looked like we were about to crush them quickly, but when the time was right to push, there were only two people that decided to push (myself and another Shadow Hawk) and we got quickly decimated. The rest of team was typing in the chat furiously about how bad the idea of pushing was, even though I knew if we all pushed at the same time (we were surrounding the center), we would've quickly won the match, yet instead the team chose to ignore the plan to push inward and instead started saying on how bad myself and the other Shadow Hawk that agreed to the plan were. This lack of awareness of strategy and what the team should do would result in many losses, and communication and strategy would be very useful.

Hopefully I helped and good luck OP.

[Buckminster]

It's definitely been worse since the last patch. If you find the game too frustrating, take a break.

But I know what you mean. I just bought a Jager-S. 11 games, 0 wins. One of those games was a 0-12 stomp, where I did something like 430 damage, but no kills and no assists. It's a crime really. I keep hoping to log in to the forums and see a "we fixed the match maker!" post from one of the developers.

Edited by Buckminster, 01 May 2014 - 06:57 PM.

[XxXAbsolutZeroXxX]

If you lose 12-0.

Take a few minutes break before joining a new game.

Sometimes, the matchmaker will give more favorable odds.

[Charronn]

My Misery is certainly living up to its name lol.
Thanks for the kind words and advice,as a long time mmo vet (SWG Elder) I would just like to say that the MWO community is probably the best I've been involved in.

[Jun Watarase]

Tell me about it. I also kept running into the same 8 man sync drop last night, same names, same meta builds, same trash talking. Almost every game was ruined by someone like that.

I think there is something fundamentally wrong when 10 of my teammates have a AWS-8R with only LRMs/tag surrounded but they literally cannot kill him after 30 seconds. No joke. The rest of the enemy team was fighting me so it was just 10vs1. They still could not kill him. Thats the kind of people who keep ending up on my team.

[Hillbillycrow]

I've come to the conclusion that if you PUG you just can't get too bent over anything, it just doesn't make any sense to.