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[Mainerd]

I think in-game voice chat would help a lot with the option to mute it or ignore certain players. I hate typing and don't even play at a desk. This would allow even a PUG a chance against some premades. I hope PGI will think of providing one. I know a few MMOs did this. I think if they provided it for the drops it could increase the amount of people who enjoy this game.

p.s. I don't hate premade groups.

[Flaming oblivion]

Mainerd, on 04 May 2014 - 02:44 PM, said:

I think in-game voice chat would help a lot with the option to mute it or ignore certain players. I hate typing and don't even play at a desk. This would allow even a PUG a chance against some premades. I hope PGI will think of providing one. I know a few MMOs did this. I think if they provided it for the drops it could increase the amount of people who enjoy this game.

p.s. I don't hate premade groups.

I do, on topic some will violently oppose this , Most will love the idea , I fall into the latter category , Voice chat for all without 3rd party programs in this game is a no brainer. Buckle your seat belts .

[Redshift2k5]

It's a topic that comes up a lot- They tried to integrate a program called C3 as the official VOIP system for MWO (it was semi-integrated and only applied to premade groups, not all players in a match)

Actual VOIP is something that comes up very often, but when so many players in the community are already using 3rd party commse, it becomes a matter of low priority.

[Durant Carlyle]

Unless it has all of the features already available in TeamSpeak, Ventrilo, and Mumble, it will never be used by the majority of people who actually use voice comms.

EVE Online has had good in-game comms for years, yet most of the groups I've been a part of still use TeamSpeak. Even when just doing random Incursion pick-up groups where nobody knows anybody else, the preferred choice is TeamSpeak.

Another MMO that had it (Neverwinter, maybe? Been a while, so I forget.), I tried using it with dungeon groups, but they rarely answered, even though all they had to do was press V to talk.

I think that the importance of in-game voice comms is way overblown. Those players who would use it are already using a third-party software to do it. The majority of the rest wouldn't use it either way. A small percentage might try it, but they'd likely be driven away by the ranting and raving and raging of the random people in their group when they get killed or lose.

[Flaming oblivion]

Durant Carlyle, on 04 May 2014 - 03:19 PM, said:

Unless it has all of the features already available in TeamSpeak, Ventrilo, and Mumble, it will never be used by the majority of people who actually use voice comms.

EVE Online has had good in-game comms for years, yet most of the groups I've been a part of still use TeamSpeak. Even when just doing random Incursion pick-up groups where nobody knows anybody else, the preferred choice is TeamSpeak.

Another MMO that had it (Neverwinter, maybe? Been a while, so I forget.), I tried using it with dungeon groups, but they rarely answered, even though all they had to do was press V to talk.

I think that the importance of in-game voice comms is way overblown. Those players who would use it are already using a third-party software to do it. The majority of the rest wouldn't use it either way. A small percentage might try it, but they'd likely be driven away by the ranting and raving and raging of the random people in their group when they get killed or lose.

Voice would limit this , Sometimes were all ass hats when we just get pushed to far, Its a lot easier to be a ass hat through a keyboard then vocally all I'm saying.

[Crohnic]

Durant Carlyle, on 04 May 2014 - 03:19 PM, said:

Unless it has all of the features already available in TeamSpeak, Ventrilo, and Mumble, it will never be used by the majority of people who actually use voice comms.

EVE Online has had good in-game comms for years, yet most of the groups I've been a part of still use TeamSpeak. Even when just doing random Incursion pick-up groups where nobody knows anybody else, the preferred choice is TeamSpeak.

Another MMO that had it (Neverwinter, maybe? Been a while, so I forget.), I tried using it with dungeon groups, but they rarely answered, even though all they had to do was press V to talk.

I think that the importance of in-game voice comms is way overblown. Those players who would use it are already using a third-party software to do it. The majority of the rest wouldn't use it either way. A small percentage might try it, but they'd likely be driven away by the ranting and raving and raging of the random people in their group when they get killed or lose.

Thanks for speaking for the rest of us, but no, the importance for a large part of the community called pugs is not overblown.

[Durant Carlyle]

Crohnic, on 04 May 2014 - 03:26 PM, said:

Thanks for speaking for the rest of us, but no, the importance for a large part of the community called pugs is not overblown.

The last time "a large part of the community" got together was for the 3PV vote, and that was about two thousand votes. I haven't seen anywhere near those kind of numbers on any in-game voice thread.

[Mainerd]

It wouldn't need all the features of other programs. Any voice chat in a drop would be an improvement over type chat. When I'm circle strafing and aiming I can push a button and speak or better still if it was voice activated. However it's impossible to open a chat window and type suggestions or tactics while maneuvering. I have gamed with gamers that have suffered strokes or have had speech problems but they have still benefitted by hearing what's going on even if they chose not to speak. I would suggest the ability to mute it though for those who want their own chat.

[990Dreams]

In Game VOIP (with mute) isn't a bad idea, but no one chats anyways. Why would they use VOIP?

Also, there should be an option for Lance and Team Voice Chat.

[Xoxim SC]

Redshift2k5, on 04 May 2014 - 02:58 PM, said:

Actual VOIP is something that comes up very often, but when so many players in the community are already using 3rd party commse, it becomes a matter of low priority.

What statistic do you have to prove that "so many players", indicating some sort of majority, are using 3rd party comms? Especially given that PGI released data indicating that a vast majority of players play solo.

[Redshift2k5]

sorry, I have no statistics, and while the majority of players do drop solo, how many of those actually want to communicate? Since they have already made the choice not to join organized play.

Looking at some purely subjective opinions, think about how many pugs don't even use the text chat when playing the game. I've also never played a game that had it's own in-game voice chat that was ever used effectively, people either couldn't hear you, wouldn't listen, wouldn't talk, or just plain spouted nonsense.

I'm not saying voice chat would be a bad idea, but i'm saying it is probably not a high priority, for a variety of factors.

Edited by Redshift2k5, 05 May 2014 - 02:14 AM.

[That Dawg]

maybe, maybe after they fix the UI, fix matchmaker, fix SRM hit box, fix terrain hitboxes, and ...oh hell...bwahahaha, it will never happen

[Egomane]

It's on the shortlist for features to be developed after the clans arrive. So we will get an ingame VoIP solution (which I can hopefully completly disable).

[Grimmrog]

Redshift2k5, on 04 May 2014 - 02:58 PM, said:

It's a topic that comes up a lot- They tried to integrate a program called C3 as the official VOIP system for MWO (it was semi-integrated and only applied to premade groups, not all players in a match)

Actual VOIP is something that comes up very often, but when so many players in the community are already using 3rd party commse, it becomes a matter of low priority.

but when 85% do public dropping then even using 3rd party Voip's is hardly brinding these 12 ppl together. Voip is so much better than tryign to use a chat when a sudden battlesituation comes up.

[aniviron]

Redshift2k5, on 04 May 2014 - 02:58 PM, said:

It's a topic that comes up a lot- They tried to integrate a program called C3 as the official VOIP system for MWO (it was semi-integrated and only applied to premade groups, not all players in a match)

Actual VOIP is something that comes up very often, but when so many players in the community are already using 3rd party commse, it becomes a matter of low priority.

I hate to say it, but since 86% of players are dropping solo, I have to doubt your assertion that most players are already using third party voice. Unless you're in a premade, there is no point to TS or mumble or vent, as you are unable to control with whom you drop. This seems to imply that at least 86% of players would find ingame voice something that would affect their game in some way, though likely more, since it allows premades to communicate with pugs.

[Watchit]

I agree having some in game voice would really help balance pugs against groups.