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#21 Sean von Steinike

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 11:46 PM

View PostTabrias07, on 06 May 2014 - 12:03 PM, said:

Forever soon

-cough- knock downs, community warfare, dropship mode -cough-

#22 Lucky Noob

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 11:57 PM

When will we see PGI being renamed to "soon TM" ?

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 12:44 AM

MASC,Flea, Knockdowns, Dropship Mode, Convergence Mechanic, Community Warfare, new Skill Tree (PinPoint perk anyone???)...meet your brother 3/3/3/3 in PGI-limbo.

Edited by TexAss, 07 May 2014 - 02:42 AM.


#24 Duke Hector

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 01:09 AM

View PostTabrias07, on 06 May 2014 - 12:54 PM, said:

Welp, apparently one group per team has been axed too.

MM improvements never in 60-90 days™!



as time goes on this game is becoming more and more of a joke, we have a development team that doesn't hit a deadline, and NOW they can't properly test stuff and do their own job properly.

i mean whats next they have an earthquake and lose the server?

i mean my god, how much stupid money do they need to swindle out of us to get this game back on track, to what they promised us back in beta

Edited by Dan the Ice Man, 07 May 2014 - 01:10 AM.


#25 Warge

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 01:22 AM

View PostDeathlike, on 06 May 2014 - 04:32 PM, said:

they have to take feedback seriously.

We still talk about PGI?

View PostDan the Ice Man, on 07 May 2014 - 01:09 AM, said:

i mean my god, how much stupid money do they need to swindle out of us to get this game back on track, to what they promised us back in beta

Mount&Blade was made by single person. And 2 years of development.

#26 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 01:27 AM

View PostCapperDeluxe, on 06 May 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

The Locust pretty much is the Flea.

Since the Locust was Introduced to the CBT Universe first, you kinda have it backwards.

#27 Karl Streiger

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 01:31 AM

Step back from this madness 3/3/3/3 would not make anything good. A medium will still be a medium - and not made viable when facing assaults or heavys.

3333 is no replacement for role warfare.
At best - bring back the CB MM - step back from ELO - if it doesn't work 100% satisfying

#28 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 01:35 AM

View PostKarl Streiger, on 07 May 2014 - 01:31 AM, said:

Step back from this madness 3/3/3/3 would not make anything good. A medium will still be a medium - and not made viable when facing assaults or heavys.

3333 is no replacement for role warfare.
At best - bring back the CB MM - step back from ELO - if it doesn't work 100% satisfying

I don't know Karl. On my new alt BMorguhn... I am only piloting Stock. I have died in 100% of my matches and have a 55% win record... Looks like Elo is working fine for me. :)

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 07 May 2014 - 01:35 AM.


#29 Karl Streiger

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 01:48 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 07 May 2014 - 01:35 AM, said:

I don't know Karl. On my new alt BMorguhn... I am only piloting Stock. I have died in 100% of my matches and have a 55% win record... Looks like Elo is working fine for me. :)

Did you played yesterday after the patch?
I can't remember such a collection of bad games (not bad because we loose) simple bad (so bad that i can't explain in any language known to me)
And because the reason for this could only be a not working Elo with other factors - the MM must be bad - if he forces me to drop with those guys.

Edited by Karl Streiger, 07 May 2014 - 01:50 AM.


#30 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 01:56 AM

View PostKarl Streiger, on 07 May 2014 - 01:48 AM, said:

Did you played yesterday after the patch?
I can't remember such a collection of bad games (not bad because we loose) simple bad (so bad that i can't explain in any language known to me)
And because the reason for this could only be a not working Elo with other factors - the MM must be bad - if he forces me to drop with those guys.

Yeah I made 4...5 drops. Mind you I am in a Stock Victor In a Meta filled Que. But my team won more than lost so I can't complain.

#31 Drazyx

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 02:00 AM

ii probably missed the debate, but this is such a good idea! make it so you have to account for 2 teammates, and thats it; everyone else is an enemy. Id rather like to see the lances stay the same, but say 4v4v4.

im REALLY tired of terrible pugs with folks going for a stroll, or hiding behind a burm for 4 minutes until they move to the next one. This game relies on team work 90% of the time, and up to 11 idiots is ruining the experience. 12v12 might as well be 6v6 with a random handicap of up to 6 MORONS. These people arent noobs either, they have nice mechs that have a reasonable amount of thought put into the build, but they play so selfishly like it's COD or something.

the last straw tonight was the full lance of 4 mechs waddling over to a half already capped epsilon instead of doing something strategic with their time or going towards another, actually contested cap, only to find my lance had already mostly capped it, so they turned around and spent the next minute or so walking with us to the next cap, and not even that, quite a few of those present turned off to follow a light around, becoming useless for enough time to give an edge, of course, as if we had any chance to start with, with that kind of asinine thinking. it flashes at hte top of the screen, you walk 50kph! aaarrgghh. it really isnt that hard to pull 300 damage every round, just always shoot twist shoot twist shoot twist. man.

no point to lances anyway, everyone wants to hump and tightly hold onto the mech next to them anyway.

bring on the 1v1 2v2 3v3 4v4 3v3v3v3 and 4v4v4, 12v12 has too much room for error. be it tonnage or inevitable deviance in player skill with such a big team pool to choose from.

#32 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 02:03 AM

So you hate players with Patience? Then You'd love me! :)

#33 Karl Streiger

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 02:10 AM

We were serveral guys on the Corps TS. My premade group was the only one that didn't have any problems do find a game instantly.
But the mix - of Pros, Pr00s, N00bs and Newbs was terrible - and in each of this 5 game a idiot did start to flame.
(for example conquest - i really hope this idiot read those lines)
  • conquest on Terra Therma
  • we were a heavy /assault lance
  • kappa was only 500m away
  • we moved to kappa
  • the other 8th guys charged for epsilon (on the other side of the map!!!!)
  • of course they get wiped out
  • and this guy start flaming - that we where cowards - that we run from a fight
  • my team was the only one that where capable of capturing at least 2 strategic points...(so there where 3 in the end - but already to late - to turn the game
  • simple reason for the defeat: those guys were not able to hit "B" read the map including the knowlege of "Tab" and Mechs per lance and undestand what was going on
The next game the same - we said we hold / defend position x.
What happen two guys came along and charged over.... so the choice was let them die in vain or charge - to early to soon. We decided for the last option - made some damage but get wiped out.
Again those guys that blow the attack - start flaming

The next game - no flaming - but i did have the feeling that at least 4 guys on each side did play MWO for the first time

The next game - a perfect made assault by the enemy - like from the text book - and the guys in the own team were not able to read the map and the chat messages we typed in (again flaming - this time in the direction of the enemy)

My last game - we didn't make mistakes - but there was a premade team on the other side that are high level players.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 02:16 AM

PUG Match. I charged a Mech, he went left, I went right... More Mechs already looking at me. I went in... Died as expected. Was then called out for not Helping player X with first Mech. Didn't hear him on Comms?(yeah... I know no comms) Didn't read, "Attacking Y in D4." But after I die, he dies and rants :P .

Blame me for his dying when I was already dead :)

#35 Karl Streiger

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 02:21 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 07 May 2014 - 02:16 AM, said:

Blame me for his dying when I was already dead :)

No pride anymore -

#36 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 02:27 AM

View PostKarl Streiger, on 07 May 2014 - 02:21 AM, said:

No pride anymore -

Said he'd teach me a Lesson. :)

I'm an Old Dawg. What's he gonna teach me? How to die quickly? I already do that in a Stock Mech! :P

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 02:32 AM

View PostIqfish, on 06 May 2014 - 12:28 PM, said:

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social rewards :P

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 07 May 2014 - 02:03 AM, said:

So you hate players with Patience? Then You'd love me! :)


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Edited by GalaxyBluestar, 07 May 2014 - 02:38 AM.


#38 IceCase88

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 02:38 AM

View PostIqfish, on 06 May 2014 - 04:56 PM, said:



Summer is coming. They start reproducing now...


Conveniently timed to coincide with PGI taking Summer vacation!

My advice to everyone is to forget about ELO, W/L, and KDR. Just forget about stats and go out and do goofy stuff in matches. The teams are so wretchedly bad it is maddening and doing goofy things is the only way to maintain sanity as well as having fun. We tried to base cap on every assault. When we were successful the other team just kind of laughed and stated they had not seen that happen in a long time. We ran non-meta mechs which we had not run in a long time. Dust off the Hunchies! Dust off those Dragons! Dust off the Awesomes! Do stuff just for the sake of doing it and not because it is meta or the typical thing to do. The game has become quite a joke much like these patches.

The patches have devolved into add one tiny thing that should've been added forever ago and break two other things. Usually, the major thing in patches have been weapons "balancing" and weapons "fixes." 3/3/3/3 is a dumb idea much like many of their dumb ideas. They seemed to be bogged down trying to address all of the QQing about the "meta", high pinpoint alphas, and weapons "balancing."

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 02:39 AM

I have to agree, since the private matches were brought in the public matches have been less than enjoyable and finally to me the game feels like a grind. Sad really, I had such high hopes for this title but for the last 4+ months the only thing keeping me coming back are my friends in game.

#40 Karl Streiger

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 02:43 AM

The funny part is Premium Private Matches could be a perfect business model:
  • you have enjoyable fights vs a foe of your choice
  • you have to pay money to have those fights
  • oh and of course you can't buy any free item - because you don't earn c-bills
  • so because PUG is not enjoyable - you have to buy more mcs.
I know its a bit sarcastic... but in the mad part of my brain it makes perfect sense





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