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[Evinthal]

THUMPER, on 20 June 2012 - 10:53 AM, said:

It really shocks me as to how so many have missed the point.

Some of you say that in order for devs to make money to create, market and release a game they need money. Of course they do. Some of you say that the devs are taking money (pre-order) to finish the game for release. Of course they are. It is after all a business and as a business they will look at what will make them money, in this case, your fandom.

The point is, and it's not being said outloud is, that all of you pre-order folks are buying the packs not for the "support" of the title. but to get an edge over other players.

Whine, cry and stomp that you are only paying for the pre-order to support the title but.... as a vet of many F2P/Pay for perks games I know you are full of it. You are buying faster in game money making, exp gathering and dressed up cartoon robots. THATS IT all in order to scamper to the highest tiers of this game faster than others so you can proudly announce your uberstature. Pathetic.

Would you be willing to pop off that $120 just to support the title with no benefit? I think not and those of you that are going to say you would are not really being truthful with yourselves or this community.

The devs are relying on your "fandom" to get the money they need to finally finish this game and take more of your money over time because you "fanboys and girls" will not be able to play without the perks that you will have to continue to pay for. Wanna make a dev smile give him/her money for an unfinished product and then continue to pay long after the game is out. Hmmmm ponzi?

So premium players gather your nuts quickly as the ADD/redbull fueled lil gigglers are waiting to call you newb even though you can spout clan lore until all around you puke, and they will not have spent a cent on the game.

A TT megamek MW1-4 VET and beyond, known simply as the:

Original THUMPER

*pulls megaphone out of Jenner's cockpit*
I can barely hear you from atop my tower of 'mechs so I will need this for you to hear me.
Actually I did buy it to support the game, and yes not having to grind as much as someone else does appeals to me.

*puts microphone down, sips brandy, picks microphone back up*
In all seriousness.
I had the money.
It was something I wanted.
I bought it.

Hooray for disposable income and living within your means.

Tano, on 20 June 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:

Lmao, do like.

You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. *Tips top hat*

[JabberJon]

Wow, I'm honestly a bit floored by this. Most games don't IP block, and in my 5000 WoT games (my roommate has double that), I've never had one problem with people disappearing or not being able to shoot them. I play a ton of online games, many F2P and I honestly don't have that problem. I've seen it happen in the past, but nothing of the sort in the last few years. Things have come a long way, there are ways to counter balance it. Instead of trying to make it link of for the lagging player, it now links up the server to everyone else, preventing that sort of thing. The lagging player sees mayhem, everyone else sees someone circle strafing a rock. XD

[zencynic]

Evinthal, on 20 June 2012 - 10:52 AM, said:

I would post a proper and gentlemanly reply, but I have to get back to sitting atop my veritable tower of my Jenner perched atop the shoulders of my Hunchback, who is riding my Catapult like a stick horse while the Catapult in turn is being carried on the shoulders of my Atlas, and sipping my fine brandy whilst looking down upon creation.

*polishes gold legendary badge* TOODLES!

<Cackle> pause <Giggle> pause <Smile till it hurts>

[JabberJon]

THUMPER, on 20 June 2012 - 10:53 AM, said:

It really shocks me as to how so many have missed the point.

Some of you say that in order for devs to make money to create, market and release a game they need money. Of course they do. Some of you say that the devs are taking money (pre-order) to finish the game for release. Of course they are. It is after all a business and as a business they will look at what will make them money, in this case, your fandom.

The point is, and it's not being said outloud is, that all of you pre-order folks are buying the packs not for the "support" of the title. but to get an edge over other players.

Whine, cry and stomp that you are only paying for the pre-order to support the title but.... as a vet of many F2P/Pay for perks games I know you are full of it. You are buying faster in game money making, exp gathering and dressed up cartoon robots. THATS IT all in order to scamper to the highest tiers of this game faster than others so you can proudly announce your uberstature. Pathetic.

Would you be willing to pop off that $120 just to support the title with no benefit? I think not and those of you that are going to say you would are not really being truthful with yourselves or this community.

The devs are relying on your "fandom" to get the money they need to finally finish this game and take more of your money over time because you "fanboys and girls" will not be able to play without the perks that you will have to continue to pay for. Wanna make a dev smile give him/her money for an unfinished product and then continue to pay long after the game is out. Hmmmm ponzi?

So premium players gather your nuts quickly as the ADD/redbull fueled lil gigglers are waiting to call you newb even though you can spout clan lore until all around you puke, and they will not have spent a cent on the game.

A TT megamek MW1-4 VET and beyond, known simply as the:

Original THUMPER

Wow, how pretentious. I don't even know where to begin with this. How can you sit there and lump thousands of people you don't know into one, iron-clad ideal? I wanted to support the game and I would have chipped in $20 for nothing in return, no problem. I chip in to charities all the time and kickstarter funds for indie games. I'm a game design student, I understand what hell they have to go through to make their creations come to life. However, upon offering goodies that seem like they would be a lot of fun to use (not to mention the months of premium, I would have gotten that no matter what), I kicked in $60. I couldn't care less about the forum tags, I think that's dumb, but there are those would would purchase just for that. I like the lifetime "thank you" bonus, I like the months of premium and the money. I mean really, I paid $60 for $80 of in game currency. So I made $20, plus two months of premium, there's $40. And a mech with a permanent boost? I couldn't care less about anything else, gimmie my mech, gimmie bonus cash and gimmie free money (essentially). I'm down. lol

I know myself well enough to know that a few days into the game, I would have dropped $40 to start buying up mechs I want to play with. Now I get a bonus mech (and slot in my garage), $80 to play with and two months of premium to enjoy, why wouldn't I cash out? If the game bombs (which I doubt it will, but you never know) then I'm out the cost of a video game at the risk of helping one of my favorite franchises flourish?

Sounds like a win-win..win-win-win-win-win to me.

[silentD11]

THUMPER, on 20 June 2012 - 10:53 AM, said:

The point is, and it's not being said outloud is, that all of you pre-order folks are buying the packs not for the "support" of the title. but to get an edge over other players.

Not true at all. I've kickstart supported a few titles, I've also shelled out for custom neogeo, dreamcast, genesis indie shmups! that cost well over 120 bucks but you needed to pre order to fund the project. I buy the collectors edition of the games I like. I'm a huge capcom fighter fan and bought all the stupid costume packs and the game on each system just to support Street Fighter, hell I own arcade machines I enjoy it so much. The only thing I'm getting for my money as a "sale" here I want is sure access to the beta on the 7th.

Don't assume bad motivations from people. A lot of gamers are in their 30's and older with plenty of disposable income to spend on their hobbies. For us 120 bucks for a game we want isn't that absurd of a buy.

[Chuckie]

BREAK THE CYCLE AND LET THE THREAD DIE...



Geez...

[JabberJon]

^ That. I'm planning on getting the legendary with my upcoming check. Had a vacation last weekend and only had enough leftover for the Elite. Spending $60 or $120 on a game that I've been looking forward to in some time pales in comparison to the parts on my car. haha

[Chuckie]

Neo Angelo, on 20 June 2012 - 11:21 AM, said:

^ That. I'm planning on getting the legendary with my upcoming check. Had a vacation last weekend and only had enough leftover for the Elite. Spending $60 or $120 on a game that I've been looking forward to in some time pales in comparison to the parts on my car. haha

Tell me about it..

Last car payment.. MAY

This months order to Rockauto.com for shocks, struts, tune up stuff, brakes, etc.. (6 years of avoided preventive and ignored maintenance..) a little over $1000..

Edited by Chuckie, 20 June 2012 - 11:25 AM.

[silentD11]

Neo Angelo, on 20 June 2012 - 11:21 AM, said:

^ That. I'm planning on getting the legendary with my upcoming check. Had a vacation last weekend and only had enough leftover for the Elite. Spending $60 or $120 on a game that I've been looking forward to in some time pales in comparison to the parts on my car. haha

Exactly, I have two of these in my apartment http://www.coinopexp...binet_6435.html 120 bucks for a game is not that much honestly.

[Solis Obscuri]

Seems legit.

[Thomas Hogarth]

THUMPER, on 20 June 2012 - 10:53 AM, said:

The point is, and it's not being said outloud is, that all of you pre-order folks are buying the packs not for the "support" of the title. but to get an edge over other players.

If the extra C-Bill generation was replaced with extra damage per shot, I could agree. Really, what does it matter how many C-Bills I have available to me? You can still kill me just as well as I can kill you. The 'edge' you say people that support PGI are looking for does not exist.

THUMPER, on 20 June 2012 - 10:53 AM, said:

Whine, cry and stomp that you are only paying for the pre-order to support the title but.... as a vet of many F2P/Pay for perks games I know you are full of it. You are buying faster in game money making, exp gathering and dressed up cartoon robots. THATS IT all in order to scamper to the highest tiers of this game faster than others so you can proudly announce your uberstature. Pathetic.

Tiers? What tiers? There are no 'Mech tiers as far as I can tell.

As far as pathetic, I could say a thing or two about spitting vitriol based on unfounded assumptions.

[Adrienne Vorton]

all i can say now, and thats the last on a topic like this...

i rather give 60$ in advance to a "medicore rated" company that has been very communicative and honest with it´s community since MWO has been announced (anybody here who has been around longer than a few weeks knows what i mean...), than 30$ to a so called "AAA+" company that ripped me off so many times in the last years...

nuff said

[Garth Erlam]

I think this thread has lived out it's purpose