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#1 Gierling

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 07:18 AM

Is there any chance we could see more variety added to missile types?

The current missiles are Semi-Active Radar homing which is fine but it doesn't lead to a lot of variety in the missile segment of the weapons tree.

One great idea would be HARM missiles, explicitly missiles which cannot be independently targeted but when fired would fly towards ECM Mechs, mech's TAGGING you or mechs which have you locked. This would be a good option to add more depth to ECM play. Thy should do only 3/4 of the damage of regular missiles though. If you fire them and there is no ECM mech or enemy targeting you then they are wasted.

Another option would be Active Radar Homing, you only need to get the initial lock and after that they are fire and forget. They do half the damage of regular missiles to make up for the easier use .

Infrared missiles are also an option, some operation as regular missiles with two changes. No indirect fire (LOS only), but lock time is reduced the higher the enemy's heat level. Slightly faster then regular LRMS' to make up for the lack of indirect fire.

Edited by Egomane, 08 May 2014 - 07:33 AM.


#2 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 07:21 AM

Depending on time line the answer I would give is maybe.

#3 Karl Streiger

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 07:29 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 08 May 2014 - 07:21 AM, said:

Depending on time line the answer I would give is maybe.

Do you think we are on timeline regarding missiles?
Our LRMs are already - semi active (tag) artemis & narc capable LRMs.

And our SRMs are Artemis guided un guided rockets. :P

Seriously the Missiles need much more love - and a complete "re work"

I really hope the Clans will open the door for "switching" ammo types

Thunder LRMs, Swarm LRMs, Mag-Pulse?? LRMs, IR-Guided LRMs...(fire and forget "heat" searching -but people will still get killed on Terra Therma by those)
Tandem SRMs,

Edited by Karl Streiger, 08 May 2014 - 07:31 AM.


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Posted 08 May 2014 - 07:36 AM

View PostKarl Streiger, on 08 May 2014 - 07:29 AM, said:

Do you think we are on timeline regarding missiles?
Our LRMs are already - semi active (tag) artemis & narc capable LRMs.

And our SRMs are Artemis guided un guided rockets. :P

Seriously the Missiles need much more love - and a complete "re work"

I really hope the Clans will open the door for "switching" ammo types

Thunder LRMs, Swarm LRMs, Mag-Pulse?? LRMs, IR-Guided LRMs...(fire and forget "heat" searching -but people will still get killed on Terra Therma by those)
Tandem SRMs,

In true Liao fashion Thunder was your first example! :ph34r:

Mag-Pulse would cause way to much whine, Swarm... would be fun, Oh man Tandems *Manly Grunting*

#5 Khobai

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 07:42 AM

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Depending on time line the answer I would give is maybe.


The timeline was already fractured. We got angel ECM 10 years earlier than we should have. Theres already precedent for not following the timeline, and I would rather have a larger selection of weapons than strict adherence to the timeline anyway.

I personally think MRMs and ATMs should be added early to help address the lack of missile options. Some different ammo types for LRMs would be good too. Since its plainly obvious LRMs will never be a viable combat weapon, maybe adding different ammo types will make them a useful utility weapon. Thunder LRMs and Swarm LRMs would make the most sense for giving LRMs utility.

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Oh man Tandems *Manly Grunting*


Tandems would be pretty overpowered in MWO. So I think its safe to say they wont be added. Inferno SRMs maybe.

Edited by Khobai, 08 May 2014 - 07:49 AM.


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Posted 08 May 2014 - 07:54 AM

I agree khobai, but as to the op, I honestly wouldn't expect a lot more depth from this team. Not that they haven't put hard work into some aspects but cmon we only have 10 maps that terrible considering how long this game has been around, I just dont think they can afford more experienced people they would have to pay them quite a bit and they would lose profit. No they rather keep shelling out mechs and call that content which no longer applies in my opinion. It's been quite a while since I've taken this stance with this game but it has gotten very stale and people are getting tired of the same old stomp or no stomp.

If you want variety of weapons then play the older games I'm not too faithful that we will even get cw. Honestly I think they should have a timeline where if they dont release none broken game types like cw by a certain time then this should just be shut down and another team given a crack at the franchise. I'd rather see another story driven game with mp on the side but not just a weak attempt.

#7 Karl Streiger

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 07:57 AM

i wouldn't call myself a liao - more a kind of steiner davion hating lyran true believer and liao is as close as possible.

anyhow if you have op ammunition like mag pulse infernos or tandems you could make them exclusive for SRM 2s and LRM5s

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:07 AM

Mag-Pulse is a year off (3050 iirc.) Operation Revival which is the Clan Invasion is 3049.


Thunder and FASCAM would be obnoxious and people would just splatter mines all over the place and camp. People would suffer friendly fire damage from friendly mines, and more damage from enemy mines. If anything, it'd reinforce the current meta ten fold and completely kill shorter range weapons as well as standard LRMs since no one would be moving around for locks.

Arrow would be a major grief weapon and it'd be a constant stream of arty strikes by everyone that could carry one. Lights would have no chance whatsoever since it's a massive AOE weapon that'd easily blow their legs off.

As for Swarms, those aren't reintroduced to the IS until 3053 which is after Tukayyid.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:30 AM

How about we let them figure out how to run two ammo types through the LBXs' first.

#10 Karl Streiger

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:44 AM

well ecm has two modes for more as a year

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 11:03 AM

Missiles types:

http://www.sarna.net...Missile_Weapons

#12 El Bandito

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 11:05 AM

Fell in love with Arrow IV since MW2.





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