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[Papaspud]

This game has pretty much degenerated into LRM boats fighting PPC meta mechs, if you run anything else, your doing it wrong. Oh you can scout if your in a small light- with ECM, but it really isn't fun for me, and pretty much any other builds will mean your average game suffers. Sure people will still have occasional goods games...... but.

I really like this game- have spent close to $500- but it really has gotten boring, no new maps- but we have new mechs to buy all the time- assault mode is pure crap, and close range weapons are not very good unless you go face hug the enemy- pulse lasers.... nah those need to weigh twice as much, heat twice as much, and do 1 point more damage...... we wouldn't want them to be able to actually be useful, SRM's= hahahahaha. That being said, it's really too bad- the game has went from fun to- why am I playing this?

I really don't like the direction the game has went, and is headed, will be jumping off this sinking ship as soon as Arena commander is released. Makes me sad

[El Bandito]

Take a break, check back after the Clans are released.

Best advice I can give ya.

[Goose]

Didn't Teh Devs once say something about not wanting the game to be a sniperfest, somewhere?

[DeadlyNerd]

El Bandito, on 26 May 2014 - 01:39 AM, said:

Take a break, check back after the Clans are released.

Best advice I can give ya.

Yeah, he can jump off the ship then.

[MischiefSC]

It was their position at the time.

Sure, in 6+ months if PGI does a better job balancing Clan tech weapons than they have in 2+ years with IS weapons, plus the new method of balancing hardpoints/modification of Clan Tech, and then went back and did whatever that magic trick that's escaped them so far on all the mechs and weapons we've already got....

Or, we'll find out that Clan mechs and tech are about as well balanced (maybe a bit less) than IS tech and when he comes back in 6 months he'll effectively double the games population.

If you play MW:O, you play it for what it is, right now, today. If this is what you want to play, then play. If you think it's worth spending money on, spend money on it. Spending money on what you hope/think you've been told/have screenshots of a Dev promises absolutely will be/other arbitrary and unreliable source of information is an invitation for disappointment.

It is what it is. Take it for what you will.... or don't. A lot of games out there who are eager to try and make you feel valued and appreciated for your ducats. Never hurts to look around for a while.

[Lynx7725]

MischiefSC, on 26 May 2014 - 02:00 AM, said:

If you play MW:O, you play it for what it is, right now, today. If this is what you want to play, then play. If you think it's worth spending money on, spend money on it. Spending money on what you hope/think you've been told/have screenshots of a Dev promises absolutely will be/other arbitrary and unreliable source of information is an invitation for disappointment.

It is what it is. Take it for what you will.... or don't. A lot of games out there who are eager to try and make you feel valued and appreciated for your ducats. Never hurts to look around for a while.

QFT. Vote with your wallet and your time. No need to drama.

[Cavendish]

Regardless of how they "balance" weapons, the community will find cookie-cutter builds that are better then any other combo. Today (and the last year really) its PPC+AC because that is what delivers maximum damage the quickest way with very little chance of retaliation. LRMs is either painted as "OMG TEH GAME BREAKER!" or "Meh" but if you look at the top tier players and teams playing you will notice a distinct lack of LRMs due to how situational and how easy they are to counter.

In any game you play there is a "BIS, best in slot" item combo, weapon combo, class+skill tree combo that is simply better then the rest. The balanced game is a lie, there are no perfectly balanced games. I can hear it now tho; "But Cavendish! In game XXX there is at least an option to..." and please just stop right there. There might be options that are not terribad, options that are better for your play style, options that gives the illusion of choise but in the end one combo is simply the best. One class/weapon/combo/passive/item is THE BEST, it might be 1% better, it might be 30% better (where I would likely put the PPC/AC meta) but it is better. Why do you think people use a spreadsheet approach to raiding in WOW if they want to be top dog? Why do you think every cleric in EQ chased the rez-click epic?

Look at other shooters? Remember the dual shotgun-n-run in COD? Remember the jump-sniper rifle in CS? Look at the massive numbercrunching in Battlefield and it is the same thing, one weapon to rule them all. Players devote an insane amount of time to find out what is best and then it becomes *the* build/item/weapon to have.

Now, PGI can go the Blizzard route and simply nerf weapon(class) after weapon until we are back to PPC/AC as top dogs again due to everything else having been "balanced" at the kneecaps, but will this result in a better game? Doubtful in my opinion, mostly due to the fact the unless they make all weapons equal (i.e. Lazors = 10 direct damage, AC = 10 direct damage, PPC = 10 direct damage...) and our only choise becomes if we want hot death delivered in light blue beams, solid shells or energy spheres, there will be something that is THE BEST ™ that will be whined about constantly. At least we know what to expect today, do we really want another draw of the deck every month to see what weapons "should" be used at that time?

[Profiteer]

Papaspud, on 26 May 2014 - 01:31 AM, said:

This game has pretty much degenerated into LRM boats fighting PPC meta mechs, if you run anything else, your doing it wrong. Oh you can scout if your in a small light- with ECM, but it really isn't fun for me, and pretty much any other builds will mean your average game suffers. Sure people will still have occasional goods games...... but.

I really like this game- have spent close to $500- but it really has gotten boring, no new maps- but we have new mechs to buy all the time- assault mode is pure crap, and close range weapons are not very good unless you go face hug the enemy- pulse lasers.... nah those need to weigh twice as much, heat twice as much, and do 1 point more damage...... we wouldn't want them to be able to actually be useful, SRM's= hahahahaha. That being said, it's really too bad- the game has went from fun to- why am I playing this?

I really don't like the direction the game has went, and is headed, will be jumping off this sinking ship as soon as Arena commander is released. Makes me sad

What do you expect when:

SRMs randomly don't do damage.
Pulse lasers are still underwhelming since.... forever.
LBX-10 is meh.
Flamers a joke troll weapon for when you're drunk.
Gauss-rifle has a crap mechanic that just makes it un-fun to use.
Lasers are generally too hot + ghost heat. (Med laser is fine for lights/back-up weapon).

I haven't played much over the last 2 months.

I check back at each patch, hoping for some weapon balance to breathe some new life into the game, but all I see is hero mechs and cockpit items :/

[Alex Warden]

El Bandito, on 26 May 2014 - 01:39 AM, said:

Take a break, check back after the Clans are released.

Best advice I can give ya.

same meta, other mechs, different ways to minmax...

Profiteer, on 26 May 2014 - 02:58 AM, said:

Gauss-rifle has a crap mechanic that just makes it un-fun to use.

i need to disagree for the 100´s time it might be no fun for YOU, for me it´s the most used weapon currently, because (for me) it´s really fun to use it, more than before when it was a noskill snapshot gun...

Profiteer, on 26 May 2014 - 02:58 AM, said:

I haven't played much over the last 2 months.

you´re lacking practice, that´s all no offense meant

Edited by Alex Warden, 26 May 2014 - 07:31 PM.

[BourbonFaucet]

I know this is probably going to sound hideously stupid, but man would I love for a checkbox in MM that says "Don't play with meta users"

[Mister Blastman]

Papaspud, on 26 May 2014 - 01:31 AM, said:

This game has pretty much degenerated into LRM boats fighting PPC meta mechs, if you run anything else, your doing it wrong. Oh you can scout if your in a small light- with ECM, but it really isn't fun for me, and pretty much any other builds will mean your average game suffers. Sure people will still have occasional goods games...... but.

I really like this game- have spent close to $500- but it really has gotten boring, no new maps- but we have new mechs to buy all the time- assault mode is pure crap, and close range weapons are not very good unless you go face hug the enemy- pulse lasers.... nah those need to weigh twice as much, heat twice as much, and do 1 point more damage...... we wouldn't want them to be able to actually be useful, SRM's= hahahahaha. That being said, it's really too bad- the game has went from fun to- why am I playing this?

I really don't like the direction the game has went, and is headed, will be jumping off this sinking ship as soon as Arena commander is released. Makes me sad

Stop spending money. That'll tell PGI how you really feel. Otherwise, expect them to keep doing the same.