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#1 n r g

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 12:34 PM

I have noticed a trend recently (actually, it's been around since MW4 and previous MW games), but you have a handful of novice players (~75% of the MWO community) that have either never played an FPS before or have but with all their power, cannot learn to snipe/play strategically.

Thus, these players perpetuate this wretched hate for "pop-tarting" stemming from ignorance. I have recently been getting team killed and flamed in many open games when being seen running a victor/highlander or cataphract build (usually meta) and it's getting pretty bad.

It's sad that novice or less experienced/low skilled players would rather be ignorant and perpetuate hate within this community, rather than ask more skilled players questions and to how we play or the strategy we use.

Obviously, anyone that has loaded CS:GO, Battlefield or any FPS longer than 5 minutes KNOWS that running in the open is a recipe for death, and the use of cover/terrain is pivotal to success, that combined with mouse cursor placement and many other elite FPS tactics (i.e. competitive gaming)

Finally, if anyone sees this player "XXXXXXXXXX" in an open match, be sure to pay your respects and give him a nice alpha in the rear for all your elite sniper brethren:

http://www.twitch.tv...lexez/c/4333355

Edited by ll eNeRgY ll, 26 May 2014 - 01:22 PM.


#2 Flaming oblivion

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 12:39 PM

No no no the pop tarters are the novice players there so terrible at the game they have to kill all the fun , make every battle exactly the same. And use a broken build that gives them a massive advantage because they are to terri bad to play on even terms. Please if your the pop tarts leave the game no one will miss you, Your the worst players this game has in every sense of the word. Don't try to defend yourself your indefensible if your poptarting.

#3 Wieland

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 12:44 PM

You better remove that name from your post before a Mod comes in.

On the topic of poptarting and other things, i am at the point where i would be happier this game would be 3025 stock.

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 12:44 PM

The ego is strong with this one.

#5 Wieland

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 12:51 PM

View PostStaggerCheck, on 26 May 2014 - 12:44 PM, said:

The ego is strong with this one.

Yeah, everyone not poptarting is a noob.

I really would have loved to see how those uberguys would have done in MPBT:3025.

Edited by Wieland, 26 May 2014 - 12:51 PM.


#6 Merrick

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 12:51 PM

also like to point out this game was not built as an FPS, but as a Mech Simulator...., if you want to play CoD style, go play TitanFall

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 12:53 PM

View Postll eNeRgY ll, on 26 May 2014 - 12:34 PM, said:

I have noticed a trend recently (actually, it's been around since MW4 and previous MW games), but you have a handful of novice players (~75% of the MWO community) that have either never played an FPS before or have but with all their power, cannot learn to snipe/play strategically.

Thus, these players perpetuate this wretched hate for "pop-tarting" stemming from ignorance. I have recently been getting team killed and flamed in many open games when being seen running a victor/highlander or cataphract build (usually meta) and it's getting pretty bad.

It's sad that novice or less experienced/low skilled players would rather be ignorant and perpetuate hate within this community, rather than ask more skilled players questions and to how we play or the strategy we use.

Obviously, anyone that has loaded CS:GO, Battlefield or any FPS longer than 5 minutes KNOWS that running in the open is a recipe for death, and the use of cover/terrain is pivotal to success, that combined with mouse cursor placement and many other elite FPS tactics (i.e. competitive gaming)

Finally, if anyone sees this player "Mellifluer" in an open match, be sure to pay your respects and give him a nice alpha in the rear for all your elite sniper brethren:
http://www.twitch.tv...lexez/c/4333355


u have been reported.

have a nice day.

Edited by Mellifluer, 26 May 2014 - 12:54 PM.


#8 Androas

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 12:54 PM

Well, i have not wittnessed a SINGLE TK beeing done, because "someone played an evil meta mech"

Chances are...

you are an ****** and people kill you because they really really really dislike YOU?
You know because like, its something totaly personal?

#9 Zolaz

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 12:54 PM

View PostMellifluer, on 26 May 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:


u have been reported.

have a nice day.


Why you mad, Mellifluer?

#10 Wieland

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 12:57 PM

View PostZolaz, on 26 May 2014 - 12:54 PM, said:


Why you mad, Mellifluer?

The "name and shame" rule, thats why he reported him.

#11 Col Jaime Wolf

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 01:00 PM

View PostZolaz, on 26 May 2014 - 12:54 PM, said:


Why you mad, Mellifluer?



not mad at all but name and shame is against the rules. make sure to read those you know......good conduct and all that. this isnt COD or CSGO this is mechwarrior you know.

like how he edited his vid to take out all the trash talk he sent. honestly mate you talk to ur mom or your gf that way? cuz you need to get laid or something mang, honestly no game should make you that mad and make you act like a monkey just because you got TK'd for bein a surat.

if anyone asked i would tell you exactly why i TK'd him. its

cuz the enemy team had a disco (12v11) and dude was like "we gonna stomp ur face" in a poptart with TS and his buddies.

so i was just "evening up the teams" for a fair match :D.

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 01:01 PM

View PostMellifluer, on 26 May 2014 - 01:00 PM, said:



not mad at all but name and shame is against the rules. make sure to read those you know......good conduct and all that. this isnt COD or CSGO this is mechwarrior you know.

like how he edited his vid to take out all the trash talk he sent. honestly mate you talk to ur mom or your gf that way? cuz you need to get laid or something mang, honestly no game should make you that mad and make you act like a monkey just because you got TK'd for bein a surat.

if anyone asked i would tell you exactly why i TK'd him. its

cuz the enemy team had a disco (12v11) and dude was like "we gonna stomp ur face" in a poptart with TS and his buddies.

so i was just "evening up the teams" for a fair match :D.


Does that make you any less of a {LT-MOB-25}?

#13 Kyle Wright

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 01:02 PM

View PostMellifluer, on 26 May 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:


u have been reported.

have a nice day.


Well if what OP says is true you are just as detrimental to game play as the GOONS or for the matter he . But 2 wrongs don't make a right. I say settle this like men 1v.1 that sh**

#14 Col Jaime Wolf

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 01:04 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 26 May 2014 - 01:01 PM, said:


Does that make you any less of a {LT-MOB-25}?


not sure what you mean, i had 6 LL i think? i do want long tom i think it would help balance alot.

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 01:04 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 26 May 2014 - 01:01 PM, said:


Does that make you any less of a {LT-MOB-25}?



Tbh. i have seen Mellifluer in a few pug games, and i cant say anything negative about him.
And, next thing, i rather have someone taking out a "bigmouth" on his own team, evening out team scores,
then someone like the OP, in any given match.

#16 n r g

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 01:05 PM

View PostFlaming oblivion, on 26 May 2014 - 12:39 PM, said:

No no no the pop tarters are the novice players there so terrible at the game they have to kill all the fun , make every battle exactly the same. And use a broken build that gives them a massive advantage because they are to terri bad to play on even terms. Please if your the pop tarts leave the game no one will miss you, Your the worst players this game has in every sense of the word. Don't try to defend yourself your indefensible if your poptarting.


How do we kill "fun"? "Fun" is subjective - it is dependent on the perception of the subject in reality. There are multiple humans in this Cosmos; different races/ethnicities, height, weight, gender, environment, social status, thus, it must be that there are different "interpretations" of "fun". "Fun" is winning to me. I am a competitive e-sports player. I don't sit down for 2+ hours on the computer to game and lose. That is not fun to me. But I don't assume other players must have my views. I don't hate anyone for LRMing, or Brawling - if you want to play that way, so be it. Just leave my builds and play-style out of the negative attacks to attempt to "nerf" the play-style out of this game.

Define "broken build". What is it about it that is "broken"? Have you ever played any other FPS or game in general? Do you ever notice the player with lowest stats, K/D, W/L ratio, experience, virtually ANY statistic complain about "broken meta"? In Battlefield, it was the M16a3, in Counter Strike, it's the AWP, M4/AK combo. The idea you fail to grasp is that intelligent players will ALWAYS adapt and find a new strategy to be dominant. One of the main facets to good/elite "gamers" is intelligence, contrary to popular belief.

If it wasn't gauss/PPC in the launch, it is AC5/PPC now, and later it will be Lasers, and then they will still own you with LRMs and be the players you can only dream of. You will never 'out-play' or 'out-think' and intelligent gamers that employ intelligence into their gameplay.

Edited by ll eNeRgY ll, 26 May 2014 - 01:12 PM.


#17 Mcgral18

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 01:05 PM

View PostMellifluer, on 26 May 2014 - 01:04 PM, said:


not sure what you mean, i had 6 LL i think? i do want long tom i think it would help balance alot.


It's an interesting filter here...

You both were apparently rude in that match. That shouldn't get filtered.

Edited by Mcgral18, 26 May 2014 - 01:06 PM.


#18 Wieland

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 01:05 PM

View PostMellifluer, on 26 May 2014 - 01:00 PM, said:



not mad at all but name and shame is against the rules. make sure to read those you know......good conduct and all that. this isnt COD or CSGO this is mechwarrior you know.

like how he edited his vid to take out all the trash talk he sent. honestly mate you talk to ur mom or your gf that way? cuz you need to get laid or something mang, honestly no game should make you that mad and make you act like a monkey just because you got TK'd for bein a surat.

if anyone asked i would tell you exactly why i TK'd him. its

cuz the enemy team had a disco (12v11) and dude was like "we gonna stomp ur face" in a poptart with TS and his buddies.

so i was just "evening up the teams" for a fair match :D.

I love even games.
A rare sight with a bugged as hell matchmaker and the discos.

#19 A banana in the tailpipe

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 01:06 PM

You can report team killing. I don't even advocate that. What you're seeing are more irrational players standing up to what they think are bullies, because the real ones have terrorized the general populace into taking action. This is exactly why I took the approach of changing attitudes, before an ugly mob broke out. Now those frustrated players will be disciplined, and PGI will be called into action.

Edited by lockwoodx, 26 May 2014 - 01:07 PM.


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Posted 26 May 2014 - 01:06 PM

View PostMerrick, on 26 May 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:

also like to point out this game was not built as an FPS, but as a Mech Simulator...., if you want to play CoD style, go play TitanFall


Why not just employ those tactics here and dominate the low IQ'd peon players? Domination is pure bliss.

**OK, I'm being slightly sarcastic here but you get my point.

Edited by ll eNeRgY ll, 26 May 2014 - 01:12 PM.




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