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[Keeshu]

The original Marauder



Or the various Alt Configs for Marauder IIC?


Or are both of these unseen?


I ask this because if the second one isn't an unseen design? Would people be okay with using that? Personally I prefer that design, even though I grew up with Mech Warrior 2's Marauder IIC (which looks like the first Marauder). It also seems to make more sense for MWO's style of mechs.




Edit: Dangit, I also keep making the typo of "Maraurder" instead of Marauder today. Ignore the typo in the title.....

Edited by Keeshu, 31 May 2014 - 11:18 AM.

[Eddrick]

The top one is the "Unseen" version.

[Bishop Steiner]

as are

Marauder II


Marauder IIC


Basically, these versions are the ReSeen
Marauder

Marauder II

Marauder IIC


But even those have been redacted in newer publications, apparently due to possible continued pressure from HG.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 31 May 2014 - 11:29 AM.

[Wieland]

They will not touch them.
Not even the redone Projekt Phoenix ones.

Edited by Wieland, 31 May 2014 - 11:29 AM.

[Eglar]

[Eddrick]

Wieland, on 31 May 2014 - 11:28 AM, said:

They will not touch them.
Not even the redone Project Phoenix ones.

It would be nice to atleast have one of the substitutes. Nightstar and Maelstrom.

[Keeshu]

Thank you. I was just curious.

Marauders are something I probably would never pilot (along with most assaults in general), I just liked seeing them on the field in MW2 just because they are so bizarely different from most mech designs and it's fun to see the giant balls of death (PPCs) in that game as I avoid them because they are so rediculously slow.

[Bishop Steiner]

Eddrick, on 31 May 2014 - 11:35 AM, said:

It would be nice to atleast have one of the substitutes. Nightstar and Maelstrom.

Bandersnatch too. Rather liked the Bander. Dragonsfire was always overlooked due to it's horrid art, proabably.
Bandersnatch

Maelstrom

Dragonsfire


Gotta redo my NightStar, not at all happy with it......

[Eddrick]

Bishop Steiner, on 31 May 2014 - 11:39 AM, said:

Dragonsfire

I didn't know about the Dragonsfire. I like it. Nice drawing, too.

[Belorion]

Its also a little unclear who owns the reseen designs.

[Thunder Lips Express]

very cool. but isn't it called Dragon Fire?

[Bishop Steiner]

Ecliptor, on 31 May 2014 - 12:22 PM, said:

very cool. but isn't it called Dragon Fire?

probably.... old 5 minute margin sketch. Sounds right though.

[OneEyed Jack]

The original and Marauder 2 are probably the only ones that would technically fall under the original copyrights, but that's not the issue. The re-seen designs are definitely far enough away that any lawsuit from HG based on them would fail. The problem, however, is that HG could drag it out in court long enough to put a serious financial hurt on PGI, if they got a hair up their butt. Winning while going bankrupt would be a mite Pyrrhic.

[Forte]

Bishop Steiner, on 31 May 2014 - 11:39 AM, said:

Bandersnatch too. Rather liked the Bander. Dragonsfire was always overlooked due to it's horrid art, proabably.
Bandersnatch

Maelstrom

Dragonsfire


Gotta redo my NightStar, not at all happy with it......

OOO pretty. All 3 are quite sexy, but that Maelstrom. Swoon.

[Glaive-]

OneEyed Jack, on 31 May 2014 - 02:53 PM, said:

The original and Marauder 2 are probably the only ones that would technically fall under the original copyrights, but that's not the issue. The re-seen designs are definitely far enough away that any lawsuit from HG based on them would fail. The problem, however, is that HG could drag it out in court long enough to put a serious financial hurt on PGI, if they got a hair up their butt. Winning while going bankrupt would be a mite Pyrrhic.

Sorry for my lack of legal/copyright understanding, but how can HG do anything at all (and why would they) if they don't own the re-seen designs?

Edited by armyunit, 31 May 2014 - 03:13 PM.

[Vassago Rain]

armyunit, on 31 May 2014 - 03:08 PM, said:

Sorry for my lack of legal/copyright understanding, but how can HG do anything at all (and why would they) if they don't own the re-seen designs?

Because if they claim there's a legal problem, the law gets involved, and PGI won't be able to use the thing until it's settled, so there's no point in even trying.

[OneEyed Jack]

armyunit, on 31 May 2014 - 03:08 PM, said:

Sorry for my lack of legal/copyright understanding, but how can HG do anything at all (and why would they) since they don't own the re-seen designs?

Because, unfortunately, you don't actually need a legal leg to stand on to file a suit, and it still forces the defendant to expend time and resources dealing with it. Nobody really knows that HG would bother with the re-seens. They don't seem to have gone after Catalyst or Ironwind Metals (the mini makers). But PGI is unwilling to take the risk, since it could be devastating if they did.

And what Vassago said.

[Kyle Wright]

Bishop Steiner, on 31 May 2014 - 11:39 AM, said:

Bandersnatch too. Rather liked the Bander. Dragonsfire was always overlooked due to it's horrid art, proabably.
Bandersnatch

Give me give me give me. Ill pilot that bandersnatch non stop i tell you... unless we get a Zeus, in which case ill split time but still!!!

[SirLANsalot]

Vassago Rain, on 31 May 2014 - 03:17 PM, said:

Because if they claim there's a legal problem, the law gets involved, and PGI won't be able to use the thing until it's settled, so there's no point in even trying.

Canadian Law at that.

Very different sets of Laws up there, then here, plus HG would have to try and throw a fuss via international Laws too....either way PGI wins and HG gets the stuffing they so richly deserve.

[BumbleBee]

Bishop Steiner, on 31 May 2014 - 11:39 AM, said:

Bandersnatch too. Rather liked the Bander. Dragonsfire was always overlooked due to it's horrid art, proabably.
Bandersnatch

Maelstrom

Dragonsfire


Gotta redo my NightStar, not at all happy with it......

Yes Please