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#1 Woodstock

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 07:13 AM

We have all sorts of Blackjacks but not the BJ-2

Introduced in 3052 ... so available.

2 x ER large (L+R Arms)
4 x Streak SRM2 (L+R Torso)

http://www.sarna.net...ck_(BattleMech)

While I'm at it ... Why no assassin too!!!

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Assassin

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#2 Artgathan

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 07:14 AM

View PostWoodstock, on 04 June 2014 - 07:13 AM, said:

Introduced in 3052 ... so available.


It is currently 3049 so you're about 3 years early.

(That said, I'd love to see the BJ-2)

#3 Rhaythe

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 07:24 AM

Probably because the chassis is so drastically similar to the BJ-1. You can build a perfectly-feasible replica of the BJ-2 using that chassis. I know it's not the same, but...
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...5eae6faddbc14b1
EDIT: Sorry. I was one heat-sink off: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...33d5ffb8677750a

Edited by Rhaythe, 04 June 2014 - 07:24 AM.


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 07:24 AM

I am not sure I agree 100% with everything on SARNA.NET. The BJ-2 is listed in the 3050 Technical Readout. Certainly it is as valid to have available now as the "Arrow". I also think they should bump the top engine from 235 to 250, similar to what the did for Hunchbacks and Cents, (bumping them from 260 to 275). A top speed of 93 with speed tweak on a 45 ton Mech makes it on the low end of competitive.

Edited by Foxwalker, 04 June 2014 - 07:30 AM.


#5 Artgathan

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 07:27 AM

View PostRhaythe, on 04 June 2014 - 07:24 AM, said:

Probably because the chassis is so drastically similar to the BJ-1. You can build a perfectly-feasible replica of the BJ-2 using that chassis. I know it's not the same, but...
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...5eae6faddbc14b1
EDIT: Sorry. I was one heat-sink off: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...33d5ffb8677750a


The BJ-2 carries 4 SSRM2 and 2 ERLL stock - it is in no way similar to the BJ-1 in terms of weapon loadouts. I think you've confused it with something else.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 07:29 AM

View PostArtgathan, on 04 June 2014 - 07:27 AM, said:


The BJ-2 carries 4 SSRM2 and 2 ERLL stock - it is in no way similar to the BJ-1 in terms of weapon loadouts. I think you've confused it with something else.

Why yes. Yes, I have. I'll take an extra helping of derp in my coffee this morn.

#7 OznerpaG

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:28 AM

being that the BJ-1X is one of my fav mechs in MWO i was REALLY hoping the Arrow would have more speed and/or missile mounts, but it has neither so it's a moot mech compared to the rest of the BJs and a waste of cash - unless you buy mechs purely on how cool their camo is lol

MGs on a very slow almost-light mech is not advisable unless you like hiding for the first half of every match

#8 Woodstock

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 10:54 AM

View PostJagdFlanker, on 04 June 2014 - 08:28 AM, said:

being that the BJ-1X is one of my fav mechs in MWO i was REALLY hoping the Arrow would have more speed and/or missile mounts, but it has neither so it's a moot mech compared to the rest of the BJs and a waste of cash - unless you buy mechs purely on how cool their camo is lol

MGs on a very slow almost-light mech is not advisable unless you like hiding for the first half of every match


I agree ..all the BJ's are basically the same

the BJ-2 would have added some variety to the chassis

hmmmm it is 3051 according to this page http://mwomercs.com/game

So I guess its next year

:D

What about the assassin!!!!!

#9 General Taskeen

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 11:00 AM

They herp-derped and rolled the time-line back to 3049 according to Paul's new post, which was pointless.

Technically speaking on a 3050 Random Assignment Table you could roll for the BJ-2 and have it "early" - essentially as a prototype.

#10 Levi Porphyrogenitus

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 12:55 PM

I'd love to see the Assassin, if only for nastalgia reasons (I always bought one early back in MW2:Mercs). PGI would probably have to fiddle with the hardpoint arrangement a bit, but that shouldn't be a big deal.

#11 CeeKay Boques

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 12:56 PM

I ask my wife this question all the time.

#12 Barantor

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 03:09 PM

View PostFoxwalker, on 04 June 2014 - 07:24 AM, said:

I am not sure I agree 100% with everything on SARNA.NET. The BJ-2 is listed in the 3050 Technical Readout. Certainly it is as valid to have available now as the "Arrow". I also think they should bump the top engine from 235 to 250, similar to what the did for Hunchbacks and Cents, (bumping them from 260 to 275). A top speed of 93 with speed tweak on a 45 ton Mech makes it on the low end of competitive.


The TROs aren't year specific, not every mech in them comes out exactly in 3050.

The BJ-2 is 3052.
http://masterunitlis...o=&FactionAuto=





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