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[thantos911]

You shutdown immediately.... hmmm... maybe with mastery's it might not but out of the box it is pointless. Can chainfire them pretty well with 15 DH's though and carry around 240 ammo.

[101011]

thantos911, on 12 June 2014 - 01:25 PM, said:

You shutdown immediately.... hmmm... maybe with mastery's it might not but out of the box it is pointless. Can chainfire them pretty well with 15 DH's though and carry around 240 ammo.

Of course it is pointless. What did you expect!?

[thantos911]

Honestly? Was not sure running 2x ac20's will net you around 51% heat on a alpha so i figured maybe 90% with the penalty or maybe a shutdown mid way through the fire?

[Pygar]

Not surprised.....they might have even gone and made sure that ghost heat on a third UAC20 would be impossible to deal with.

Now the big question is, how does the BlackHawk prime handle while firing 6 or 12 ERMLs at once? (did they make a "trait" so hat the mech could actually use it's stock load out, or are half of those lasers wasted tonnage and space?)

Edited by Pygar, 12 June 2014 - 01:33 PM.

[Sephlock]

Pygar, on 12 June 2014 - 01:32 PM, said:

Now the big question is, how does the BlackHawk prime handle while firing 6 or 12 ERMLs at once?

Raw footage of a high ranking Jade Falcon attempting said maneuver.

[LawDawg]

Pygar, on 12 June 2014 - 01:32 PM, said:

Not surprised.....they might have even gone and made sure that ghost heat on a third UAC20 would be impossible to deal with.

Now the big question is, how does the BlackHawk prime handle while firing 6 or 12 ERMLs at once? (did they make a "trait" so hat the mech could actually use it's stock load out, or are half of those lasers wasted tonnage and space?)

Ya, it will be interesting since 6 cause the ghost heat, Maybe fire 5, then start the chain fire of the others? Dunno. Hate to have many LAZORS! and just not want to fire them ALL at once at some mechs back CT.

[Pygar]

Sephlock, on 12 June 2014 - 01:35 PM, said:

Raw footage of a high ranking Jade Falcon attempting said maneuver.

That's 1:22 minutes of some serious "Damage Over Time" happening there, lol

Edited by Pygar, 12 June 2014 - 01:39 PM.

[thantos911]

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I would say it is far from pointless you just have to keep away from the alpha's and keep on the chainfire. With the longer cool down and chainfiring 3 is actually a sweet spot for a consistant fire. It was just suprising to shut down instantly the first time out the pocket and have the adder next to me turn and stare. 2 seconds into the match.

Edited by Egomane, 13 June 2014 - 12:26 AM.
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[Augustus Martelus II]

Sephlock, on 12 June 2014 - 01:35 PM, said:

Raw footage of a high ranking Jade Falcon attempting said maneuver.

hahaha thats how it must feel

[Khobai]

just macro the x3 UAC20s or x4 UAC10s to doubletap in succession .5 seconds after eachother. its so horrendously overpowered. Also the UAC10s can fire in pairs because their ghost heat limit is 2.

[darkkterror]

Pygar, on 12 June 2014 - 01:32 PM, said:

Not surprised.....they might have even gone and made sure that ghost heat on a third UAC20 would be impossible to deal with.

Now the big question is, how does the BlackHawk prime handle while firing 6 or 12 ERMLs at once? (did they make a "trait" so hat the mech could actually use it's stock load out, or are half of those lasers wasted tonnage and space?)

You absolutely do not want to fire all 12 at once. I dropped with the Nova Prime on Frozen City. I fired off 6 and it only brought me to about 32-35% heat (somewhere around there). I figured that might leave me with enough heat to manage a single alpha strike but nope, instant shut down. It was a long shut down, too.

[Chemie]

darn, you will have to chain fire and do that 60 pinpoint over 1.5 seconds instead. Go PGI balancing.

[Valkyrie Brynhildr]

You think 3 is bad? Try firing 4 UAC20s.

I shutdown for like a minute.

[Exilyth]

I put four ER PPC on a cicada... so, what is this "long shutdown" you talk about?

[thantos911]

Exilyth, on 12 June 2014 - 03:23 PM, said:

I put four ER PPC on a cicada... so, what is this "long shutdown" you talk about?

well i didnt say i was trying to see if i could make myself go criticial. Was just testing heat!

[Redshift2k5]

Pygar, on 12 June 2014 - 01:32 PM, said:

Not surprised.....they might have even gone and made sure that ghost heat on a third UAC20 would be impossible to deal with.

Now the big question is, how does the BlackHawk prime handle while firing 6 or 12 ERMLs at once? (did they make a "trait" so hat the mech could actually use it's stock load out, or are half of those lasers wasted tonnage and space?)

6, half a second, 6 more. Rinse repeat. Just because you can't mindlessly alpha everything without wrecking your heat doesn't mean they're wasted.

Or switch up for some smalls (6 mediums and 6 smalls shouldn't have any ghost heat) or machine guns

[SirLANsalot]

Redshift2k5, on 12 June 2014 - 06:46 PM, said:

6, half a second, 6 more. Rinse repeat. Just because you can't mindlessly alpha everything without wrecking your heat doesn't mean they're wasted.

Or switch up for some smalls (6 mediums and 6 smalls shouldn't have any ghost heat) or machine guns

Correct.

If you have 6 ERML and 6 ERSL they are not linked and hence do not proc Ghost Heat. Just will have to deal with the 180m range of the ERSL.

[EyeOne]

I accidentally alpha'd a stock Nova. I shutdown for about 30 seconds and went from a fresh CT to a blood red one but I survived.

Edited by EyeOne, 12 June 2014 - 07:19 PM.

[Aym]

Clammers complaining about ghost heat are funny, it's like they closed their eyes and plugged their ears when ghost heat was introduced and the Swayback and Awesomes had to do something else...

[Sephlock]

Aym, on 12 June 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

Clammers complaining about ghost heat are funny, it's like they closed their eyes and plugged their ears when ghost heat was introduced and the Swayback and Awesomes had to do something else...

Or maybe it sucked back then and it still sucks now?