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[Turboferret]

http://mwomercs.com/...22#entry3471522

Seems like only the lower arm actuator actually gives any benefit. Does the hand do something (like more turn speed) or is it just for fancies?

[FupDup]

In BT they could be used to pick up things and punch people. In MWO, they just look pretty and take up critslots.

On my Clan lights, I actually choose to keep the hands in an effort to increase my arm hitbox size (to deflect damage from other body parts).

[Bilbo]

It provides more horizontal arm movement than the lower arm actuator alone. The amount of extra movement is variant specific.

[Lily from animove]

Bilbo, on 17 June 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

It provides more horizontal arm movement than the lower arm actuator alone. The amount of extra movement is variant specific.

really? tahst cool, i still ahve chosen it whenever possible, because the style is grea. Especially at the Nova.

[Bilbo]

Lily from animove, on 17 June 2014 - 11:15 AM, said:

really? tahst cool, i still ahve chosen it whenever possible, because the style is grea. Especially at the Nova.

From a quick look at the list, only the mediums and below have the option anyway.

[Sephlock]

Azrael1911, on 17 June 2014 - 11:11 AM, said:

http://mwomercs.com/...22#entry3471522

Seems like only the lower arm actuator actually gives any benefit. Does the hand do something (like more turn speed) or is it just for fancies?

I believe someone's sig indicates that if you crouch down in your Atlas you can use them to fire off a Hadouken.

[Khobai]

hand actuators do absolutely nothing.

and theres plenty of examples where mechs with hand actuators have worse arm pitch than mechs without them. so hand actuators dont uniformly increase horizontal arm pitch.

[Bilbo]

Khobai, on 17 June 2014 - 11:18 AM, said:

hand actuators do absolutely nothing.

and theres plenty of examples where mechs with hand actuators have worse arm pitch than mechs without them. so hand actuators dont uniformly increase horizontal arm pitch.

From Here:
http://mwomercs.com/...specifications/


Arm Actuator Rules:•The presence of the Lower Arm and/or Hand Actuator is determined by the OmniPod equipped to the Mech’s arm.

•Lower Arm and Hand Actuators can be toggled on and off by the user.

•Lower Arm and Hand Actuators are forced off if an Autocannon (including Ultra and LBX types), Gauss Rifle, or PPC is equipped to that arm.

•Current arm angle rules:
•0 lower arm actuators = 0 degrees yaw

•1 lower arm actuator = 10 degrees yaw (currently true on all Mechs, individual values may possibly change in the future)

•2 lower arm actuators = different for each Mech

[A banana in the tailpipe]

Lily from animove, on 17 June 2014 - 11:15 AM, said:

really? tahst cool, i still ahve chosen it whenever possible, because the style is grea. Especially at the Nova.

Yeah the Nova always reminded me of the old Optimus Fists.

[Turboferret]

Bilbo, on 17 June 2014 - 11:21 AM, said:

From Here:
http://mwomercs.com/...specifications/


Arm Actuator Rules:•The presence of the Lower Arm and/or Hand Actuator is determined by the OmniPod equipped to the Mech’s arm.

•Lower Arm and Hand Actuators can be toggled on and off by the user.

•Lower Arm and Hand Actuators are forced off if an Autocannon (including Ultra and LBX types), Gauss Rifle, or PPC is equipped to that arm.

•Current arm angle rules:
•0 lower arm actuators = 0 degrees yaw

•1 lower arm actuator = 10 degrees yaw (currently true on all Mechs, individual values may possibly change in the future)

•2 lower arm actuators = different for each Mech

There's the rub.

It states quite clearly that only arm actuators affect yaw.

[Mcgral18]

Does it provide additional crit padding?

Hitbox aside, I don't see much use, and haven't looked into the numbers.

[Wrayeth]

Hopefully we'll one day be able to make physical attacks in a MechWarrior game, and the hand actuators will finally be useful. It's a pipe-dream, I know, but one can always dream. Here's hoping the next thing they do after community warfare will be to re-implement collisions, knockdown, and introduce physical attacks (we know CryEngine supports the latter - see Crysis).

[Turboferret]

Wrayeth, on 17 June 2014 - 11:31 AM, said:

Hopefully we'll one day be able to make physical attacks in a MechWarrior game, and the hand actuators will finally be useful. It's a pipe-dream, I know, but one can always dream. Here's hoping the next thing they do after community warfare will be to re-implement collisions, knockdown, and introduce physical attacks (we know CryEngine supports the latter - see Crysis).

Melee character to character is in cryengine yes, but mech to mech melee is a far stretch. Consider this, "you" are just the guy in the cockpit, they have to do new animations and code for "your robot" punching other robots.

[ChapeL]

Well, I'd like to think the tiny hands on a Stormcrow for instance could be used to punch through a cockpit canopy and strangle the pilot

...other than that, I don't know, hack into security teminals? Texting your buddies while taking cover from poptart fire ? Throw snow balls ?

[KGB GRU]

Interesting that you can remove a whole hand from a mech and it still weighs the same!

[Angel of Annihilation]

Azrael1911, on 17 June 2014 - 11:11 AM, said:

http://mwomercs.com/...22#entry3471522

Seems like only the lower arm actuator actually gives any benefit. Does the hand do something (like more turn speed) or is it just for fancies?

It is your wrist.

Hand = Wrist
Lower Arm = Elbow
Upper Arm = Shoulder

If MWO had mechs like the Stinger or Wasp (forget which one actually holds the gun), then technically you should have even further range of motion.

Also in lore, you need hand actuators to actually grip, use an axe/hatchet etc. In MWO, it does nothing yet.