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[Sandpit]

Kell Commander, on 20 June 2014 - 03:32 PM, said:

Supposedly PGI is going to implement a feature that will let you select 4 mechs, then once you see the map take of of your 4 selected.

nope
dropship mode cancelled quite a while back. their position on it changed i guess.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Sandpit, on 20 June 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

nope
dropship mode cancelled quite a while back. their position on it changed i guess.

Yeah, I was getting ready to mention that.

[Sandpit]

Ok, here's another question to add to the mix.

It's not necessarily about BIGGER maps, just not smaller. If they had more maps about the size of or slightly bigger than alpine, terra, etc. that would be ok as well.

Maps like river city? Not so much. That map is nothing more than spawn and shoot from the getgo. I do NOT want to see more maps like this. It's pointless. I have no desire to have more maps where immediately upon spawning, you're already within weapons ranges of enemy weapons. That doesn't even take into account that there's simply no strategy involved when you can physically see your opponent before the match even starts.

So even if you don't want BIGGER maps, do you want smaller maps??

Nicholas Carlyle, on 20 June 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

Yeah, I was getting ready to mention that.

Well that's another reason behind some of the topics I'll be starting over the next few weeks. We have players who aren't up to date on the direction of the game because finding definitive and clear information can be next to impossible depending on the topic you're searching.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Sandpit, on 20 June 2014 - 03:52 PM, said:

Ok, here's another question to add to the mix.

It's not necessarily about BIGGER maps, just not smaller. If they had more maps about the size of or slightly bigger than alpine, terra, etc. that would be ok as well.

Maps like river city? Not so much. That map is nothing more than spawn and shoot from the getgo. I do NOT want to see more maps like this. It's pointless. I have no desire to have more maps where immediately upon spawning, you're already within weapons ranges of enemy weapons. That doesn't even take into account that there's simply no strategy involved when you can physically see your opponent before the match even starts.

So even if you don't want BIGGER maps, do you want smaller maps??

River City should be a 6 vs 6, Forest Colony/Frozen City 8 vs 8, Canyon/Crimson 10 vs 10 and Tourmaline/Mordor/Alpine 12 vs 12.

Obviously could make some arguments up and down. But the gist of it.

And no maps released from now on that are smaller than Canyon.

[Suko]

Sandpit, on 20 June 2014 - 03:53 PM, said:

Ok, here's another question to add to the mix.

It's not necessarily about BIGGER maps, just not smaller. If they had more maps about the size of or slightly bigger than alpine, terra, etc. that would be ok as well.

Maps like river city? Not so much. That map is nothing more than spawn and shoot from the getgo. I do NOT want to see more maps like this. It's pointless. I have no desire to have more maps where immediately upon spawning, you're already within weapons ranges of enemy weapons. That doesn't even take into account that there's simply no strategy involved when you can physically see your opponent before the match even starts.

So even if you don't want BIGGER maps, do you want smaller maps??


Well that's another reason behind some of the topics I'll be starting over the next few weeks. We have players who aren't up to date on the direction of the game because finding definitive and clear information can be next to impossible depending on the topic you're searching.

No. Tourmaline and Therma are about as large as I want it to be. I actually do like Forest Colony, but I admit it's pretty small and it sucks to have mechs trading shots within 15 seconds. I still think medium-sized maps are the sweet spot.

[Stingray Productions]

I think assault+skirmish+conquest works with current size, but beginning in Community Warfare and maybe having missions might demand larger maps. Wouldn't take long to explore all of caustic valley, so it's not best for a recon mission, mostly just brawl.

[slide]

Bigger. The hunt is half the fun.

[Wolfways]

Sandpit, on 20 June 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

nope
dropship mode cancelled quite a while back. their position on it changed i guess.

What? How the hell did i miss that?

[Goose]

People carp about any map that gets them out over their "blob-it" comfort zone. Recon in non-existent (thanks to ECM,) players can't cope with units seen across the whole map that aren't on senors, and having a map big enough for one team to out maneuver opposing assaults mechs on trashes a players' cash flow.

Also: LuRMs where out-ranged on Alpine …

Make Canyon Network about three times the size, in two directions, maybe with moar cover, and even moar climbable access points; Spread the spawns out (lightest lance forward, please,) then see what people say …

Or, you know, fix recon.

Edited by Goose, 20 June 2014 - 04:44 PM.

[Sandpit]

slide, on 20 June 2014 - 03:57 PM, said:

Bigger. The hunt is half the fun.

I agree

Wolfways, on 20 June 2014 - 04:01 PM, said:

What? How the hell did i miss that?

dunno, but it was flat out cancelled

[NeonKnight]

Sandpit, on 20 June 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

nope
dropship mode cancelled quite a while back. their position on it changed i guess.

Quote? Link?

[Sandpit]

NeonKnight, on 20 June 2014 - 04:09 PM, said:

Quote? Link?

dig through CC posts, it's in there. I'd post it if I had it handy but it's been quite a while. Someone else may have easy access to it though. I promise, it was cancelled though.

Addendum:

It MIGHT have been in one of the AtD posts as well. I just don't have a link handy

Edited by Sandpit, 20 June 2014 - 04:13 PM.

[GreyGriffin]

NeonKnight, on 20 June 2014 - 03:46 PM, said:

yeah, because the REAL world NEVER has cities like that!

Phoenix Arizona:

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Rio De Janeiro:

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Real Geography does not necessarily make great gameplay

[moneyBURNER]

I just wanted to say that any issues with really huge maps can be resolved by game design. For example, the tedium of having to travel long distances could perhaps be addressed by allowing a dropship to be called in for redeployment to a number of predefined locations. That could be a perk of the command console. Depending on the gameplay impact, maybe a minimum number of mechs would have to board before the dropship would take off, and maybe it would only be available within a certain period of time.

Secondary objectives that offer worthwhile bonuses would not only encourage engagements in certain areas, but could also help with the problem of having to track down remaining enemies over a large area by providing a satellite uplink to reveal enemy locations, which could be balanced by various mechanics like an initialization period, and the ability to be disabled and re-enabled.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Sandpit, on 20 June 2014 - 04:10 PM, said:

dig through CC posts, it's in there. I'd post it if I had it handy but it's been quite a while. Someone else may have easy access to it though. I promise, it was cancelled though.

Addendum:

It MIGHT have been in one of the AtD posts as well. I just don't have a link handy

It was in two ATD's and they actually waffled, then cancelled it again.

[jaxjace]

He is wrong we need bigger maps, it will increase viability of lights and tactics, might make electronic warfare mean something, and make it more than Mechstrike

[NeonKnight]

GreyGriffin, on 20 June 2014 - 04:11 PM, said:

Real Geography does not necessarily make great gameplay

maybe so, but it still does exist as real options.

[Bhael Fire]

Wolfways, on 20 June 2014 - 04:01 PM, said:

What? How the hell did i miss that?

They cancelled their design plans for Dropship mode a while ago once they decided to implement the Launch Module with the 3/3/3/3 rule. This was mentioned on twitter and an NGNG podcast (can't recall which one).

Dropship mode has been replaced with an Attack/Defend mode which is basically the same thing, just without re-spawns. That is planned to be released later this year as part of planetary conquest.

[Wolfways]

Bhael Fire, on 20 June 2014 - 04:24 PM, said:

They cancelled their design plans for Dropship mode a while ago once they decided to implement the Launch Module with the 3/3/3/3 rule. This was mentioned on twitter and an NGNG podcast (can't recall which one).

Dropship mode has been replaced with an Attack/Defend mode which is basically the same thing, just without re-spawns. That is planned to be released later this year as part of planetary conquest.

Well that sucks

[NeonKnight]

Bhael Fire, on 20 June 2014 - 04:24 PM, said:

They cancelled their design plans for Dropship mode a while ago once they decided to implement the Launch Module with the 3/3/3/3 rule. This was mentioned on twitter and an NGNG podcast (can't recall which one).

Dropship mode has been replaced with an Attack/Defend mode which is basically the same thing, just without re-spawns. That is planned to be released later this year as part of planetary conquest.

Yeah gotta love social media. Makes me glad the rest of the "real" does not operate this way.

WTF are my taxes going up? Oh there was a twitter by the Minister of Finance talking about that.

What do you mean my Credit Card is now payable in full every month or I get hit with 40% interest? There was a podcast last year where the CEO mentioned it in passing. If you look he says it around the 18 minute mark.