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#1 Gyrok

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 12:49 PM

Then pony up the F******* money and shut up...

Otherwise...you are clueless until you use them and understand the mechanics.

You should absolutely NOT get something that MANY people paid early access for a package, the same day for free...that would be the most horrid business decision PGI could ever make. How much money do you think they made off this package? Lots of it likely...they would lose ALL OF THAT if they let you snot nosed, whining, egotistical, self indulgent, spoiled little brats have them now. Get used to it. Pay to have it before you do is here to stay, and IT WILL NOT CHANGE. No one is paying to win, they are paying disposable income to get something they wanted early. If you cannot fathom that...I cannot help you.

Do you want clan mechs? They are still on sale...PAY THE MONEY or shut up, it is simple. Trial clan mechs are coming...then you can see how they are not P2W.

I am tired of explaining to people who are incapable of listening that clan mechs are DIFFERENT, but in many ways they are NOT superior...

You want clan mechs??? Buy them like the rest of us...

Otherwise wait and get them FOR FREE. If you cannot do that...there is a tutorial on how to uninstall MWO. I can link it if you wish. The CoD crowd needs to GTFO, and take their self-entitled attitudes with them.

Flame on circle-jerk-I-want-it-now-because-it-is-P-2-W whiners.

#2 Sean von Steinike

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 12:51 PM

Morons, gonna be morons. Like the ones that keep starting all the LRM are overpowered threads.

#3 Torgun

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 12:53 PM

It's a good thing you opened a new thread about this, because there hasn't been a single one where people were discussing this topic

#4 Roland

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 12:53 PM

View PostGyrok, on 25 June 2014 - 12:49 PM, said:

Then pony up the F******* money and shut up...


lol

"If you think they are Pay-2-Win, then you should pay, in order to win!"

#5 MajorLeeHung

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 12:54 PM

I support this mesage. +1 ;)

#6 KamikazeRat

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 01:19 PM

View PostGyrok, on 25 June 2014 - 12:49 PM, said:

Then pony up the F******* money and shut up...


well put sir, im just going to start linking this thread to people that *****(complain) about P2W.

i hear it almost every match. Some loser in an atlas gets his cheetos spilled and whines about P2W clans, when one team still fighting is all the old school inner sphere mechs and the clanners on the other team bite the dust one by one. yeah, p2w, i paid and i lost...so quit....just quit....

EDIT: oops, dirty word

Edited by KamikazeRat, 25 June 2014 - 01:20 PM.


#7 1453 R

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 01:25 PM

Settle down, Gyrok. It's frustrating as hell, I totally get it, and I've certainly delivered my share of irritated snark over this issue and others, but nobody's going to get anywhere firing off rage-diatribes.

You can take it out on me this weekend, quiaff? ;)

#8 SolCrusher

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 01:28 PM

Preach on! Amen! Hallelujah!

I didn't think I missed out on anything with the Phoenix Package, but I knew if I didn't find the disposable income for Clans I'd be sorry.

Great post OP.

Edited by SolCrusher, 25 June 2014 - 01:29 PM.


#9 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 01:30 PM

View PostGyrok, on 25 June 2014 - 12:49 PM, said:

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mmmmmmmmm.. decaf?

#10 Mcgral18

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 01:31 PM

View PostRoland, on 25 June 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:

lol

"If you think they are Pay-2-Win, then you should pay, in order to win!"


Well, what happens when they don't win? Will they whine they are UP?

#11 Foxfire kadrpg

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 01:40 PM

I believe half of this problem is that Clans DID in fact make a significant change to the gameplay.

They have more DPS which is balanced by longer durations of fire, making them easier targets for sniping and LRMing. This DPS though makes them naturally stronger brawlers (in general). Unlike previous mech additions, Clan mechs require a different approach in order to overcome.

The average idi- er, player now discovers that what he was doing before (which got him many kills and success) now gets HIM killed with little success, and interprets this to mean his opponent has bought the win.

Only solution to this misconception is to try and take players aside and explain to them patiently. Works with some.

#12 Vassago Rain

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 01:40 PM

I like that the people who make these threads all have the masakari package.

#13 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 01:44 PM

View PostTorgun, on 25 June 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:

It's a good thing you opened a new thread about this, because there hasn't been a single one where people were discussing this topic

well now, that would depend on one's definition of "discussed", now wouldn't it? ;)

View PostVassago Rain, on 25 June 2014 - 01:40 PM, said:

I like that the people who make these threads all have the masakari package.

and so actually have access to all the mechs, meaning they MIGHT (not a given, granted) actually know what they are talking about?

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 25 June 2014 - 01:44 PM.


#14 Torgun

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 01:47 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 25 June 2014 - 01:44 PM, said:

well now, that would depend on one's definition of "discussed", now wouldn't it? ;)


and so actually have access to all the mechs, meaning they MIGHT (not a given, granted) actually know what they are talking about?


Yep, saw a couple of tantrums being thrown eh?

#15 Koniks

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 01:50 PM

It wouldn't be a good business plan for them to release them for free at once. But I'd be fine with it so long as cash purchases came with bonuses unavailable to F2P players, like the C-Bill and XP rewards.

Early access is clearly a good selling point but it's not something I care about.

#16 Blue Shadow

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 01:53 PM

View PostVassago Rain, on 25 June 2014 - 01:40 PM, said:

I like that the people who make these threads all have the masakari package.



Well thats probably because they have used every clan mech there is to use and have discovered (shock horror!) that they not OP!

#17 Vassago Rain

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 01:54 PM

View PostBlue Shadow, on 25 June 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:



Well thats probably because they have used every clan mech there is to use and have discovered (shock horror!) that they not OP!


It couldn't possibly be because they are really scared their toys will get taken away.

#18 Mcgral18

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 02:04 PM

View PostVassago Rain, on 25 June 2014 - 01:54 PM, said:


It couldn't possibly be because they are really scared their toys will get taken away.


Well, you'll be in for a shock then.

#19 Dax Frey

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 02:08 PM

View PostGyrok, on 25 June 2014 - 12:49 PM, said:

Then pony up the F******* money and shut up...


QFT

#20 Ragnar Darkmane

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 02:14 PM

Yawn, yet another rage thread. You'd think people would actually start some constructive threads or come up with valid arguments instead of wasting their and our time with their rants...

Edited by Ragnar Darkmane, 25 June 2014 - 02:16 PM.






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