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[DAEDALOS513]

I was in a group of TWO and just had a pug match where other team was 12 man PREMADE. This isn't supposed to happen, correct? If so.. ARE YOU INSANE?

Edited by DAEDALOS513, 03 July 2014 - 07:55 AM.

[Kazma]

again ... gonna wait until hotfix comes out

[-Natural Selection-]

DAEDALOS513, on 02 July 2014 - 12:38 PM, said:

Why are 12 man groups dropping with pugs?

ARE YOU INSANE?

Were you in a group of any size or dropped solo?

[Ironwithin]

Do you mean there were solo-players fighting against 12man-groups?

If so that's surely a bug, as the patch-notes state that should never happen.

If on the other hand you mean there were smaller groups(2-4man) fighting against 12mans, that's intentional as long as the whole team is made up of smaller groups.

[DAEDALOS513]

Dozier, on 02 July 2014 - 12:42 PM, said:

Were you in a group of any size or dropped solo?

I was in group of TWO!

Ironwithin, on 02 July 2014 - 12:43 PM, said:

Do you mean there were solo-players fighting against 12man-groups?

If so that's surely a bug, as the patch-notes state that should never happen.

If on the other hand you mean there were smaller groups(2-4man) fighting against 12mans, that's intentional as long as the whole team is made up of smaller groups.

They all admitted they were 12 man PREMADE!

[Kazma]

DAEDALOS513, on 02 July 2014 - 12:43 PM, said:

I was in group of TWO!

I was in that match too, with a friend in a 2 mans group

[Ironwithin]

DAEDALOS513, on 02 July 2014 - 12:43 PM, said:

I was in group of TWO!

Then everything was as it should be ... If you play in a group of size 2-4 you are searching for matches in the solo-player- AND the group-ques. If you land in a group-match your whole team will be made up of groups, the other team might be too, or it might be a whole 12-man.
If you play in a group of 5 or more you only get games from the group-que.

Edited by Ironwithin, 02 July 2014 - 12:46 PM.

[SRC472]

Kazma, on 02 July 2014 - 12:44 PM, said:

I was in that match too, with a friend in a 2 mans group

I was in the same group with Daedalos

[Sarsaparilla Kid]

Unless the rest of your team were solo droppers, then it's working as intended. You could have 6 separate 2-man premade groups go up against a single 12-man premade. Ideally, the 12-man premade should be matched up against another 12-man group first, but if there are no other such groups in the queue, then it looks to make up an opposing team of smaller groups ranging in size between 2 and 10 for each group until it gets 12.

[-Natural Selection-]

IF you are in a group of ANY size when you drop, you are put in the group que. This means group size 2-10 or 12. 2-4 player groups will either end up in SOLO drop que, or group que depending on what needs to be filled.

[SRC472]

Sarsaparilla Kid, on 02 July 2014 - 12:47 PM, said:

Unless the rest of your team were solo droppers, then it's working as intended. You could have 6 separate 2-man premade groups go up against a single 12-man premade. Ideally, the 12-man premade should be matched up against another 12-man group first, but if there are no other such groups in the queue, then it looks to make up an opposing team of smaller groups ranging in size between 2 and 10 for each group until it gets 12.

But that is insane. I mean a group of 12, probably on TS, against 6 groups of 2?

[DAEDALOS513]

Sarsaparilla Kid, on 02 July 2014 - 12:47 PM, said:

Unless the rest of your team were solo droppers, then it's working as intended. You could have 6 separate 2-man premade groups go up against a single 12-man premade. Ideally, the 12-man premade should be matched up against another 12-man group first, but if there are no other such groups in the queue, then it looks to make up an opposing team of smaller groups ranging in size between 2 and 10 for each group until it gets 12.

Bhaahahaah so PGI thinks it's fair for a team of 6 2-man premades to vs one 12man premade? This is the big hoopla about fairness they are talking about?

2man groups should drop in pug queue.. at the very least! Who can disagree?

This is a SICK joke!

Edited by DAEDALOS513, 02 July 2014 - 12:54 PM.

[Kazma]

Wouldn't it be better if the 12 mans still only play against 12 mans? 12 mans are much more coordinated so these matches would often end in a stomp

[Ironwithin]

Kazma, on 02 July 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:

Wouldn't it be better if the 12 mans still only play against 12 mans? 12 mans are much more coordinated so these matches would often end in a stomp

That would definately be better but then the competitive crowd complains about not being able to find matches with their 12mans.

[Vandruis]

So what this tells me is this:

Play solo or

Play in 10-12 man groups. Got it.

[DAEDALOS513]

Kazma, on 02 July 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:

Wouldn't it be better if the 12 mans still only play against 12 mans? 12 mans are much more coordinated so these matches would often end in a stomp

That is such an obvious statement that it doesn't need affirmation!

Vandruis, on 02 July 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:

So what this tells me is this:

Play solo or

Play in 10-12 man groups. Got it.

Sick joke RIGHT?!?

Nikolai Lubkiewicz, on 02 July 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:

Please send us the details of this match so that we can look up the game records and see if an issue in matchmaking had taken place. Cheers!

It's not necessary. Just read the replies in the forum. It's 'working as intended' but that doesn't mean it's FAIR.

[Sarsaparilla Kid]

Kazma, on 02 July 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:

Wouldn't it be better if the 12 mans still only play against 12 mans? 12 mans are much more coordinated so these matches would often end in a stomp

Like I said, they designed it so that 12s would go up against 12s first, but if there's a 12-man in the queue that has no matching 12-man, it will set it up against several smaller group sizes. At least the 12-man can't be all assault and heavy mechs now, as we have seen in the past.

[Kazma]

Sarsaparilla Kid, on 02 July 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:

Like I said, they designed it so that 12s would go up against 12s first, but if there's a 12-man in the queue that has no matching 12-man, it will set it up against several smaller group sizes. At least the 12-man can't be all assault and heavy mechs now, as we have seen in the past.

If I'd be in a 12 man I'd rather not play against pugs but meh, and the 4x3 system was already active for 12 man premades long before this patch

Edited by Kazma, 02 July 2014 - 01:01 PM.

[Modo44]

DAEDALOS513, on 02 July 2014 - 12:55 PM, said:

It's not necessary. Just read the replies in the forum. It's 'working as intended' but that doesn't mean it's FAIR.

Fairer than multiple premades stompin' on solo players. Carry harder.

[DAEDALOS513]

Sarsaparilla Kid, on 02 July 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:

Like I said, they designed it so that 12s would go up against 12s first, but if there's a 12-man in the queue that has no matching 12-man, it will set it up against several smaller group sizes. At least the 12-man can't be all assault and heavy mechs now, as we have seen in the past.

Are you listening to yourself? 12 man coordinated vs 3 or 4 or even 5 smaller groups seems ok as long as they aren't all assault? Are you kidding me?