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#1 JC Daxion

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 04:43 PM

i Just wanted to post this because i think this could be part of the problem with some peoples play. So often have i been playing for the last year, and could swear i did way more damage to other mechs during a match, only to end the match, and see 200 damage.. (granted it is more often when fighting those hard to hit lights) but still, o often said to myself.. Man i know i hit mechs way more than that...

Even those shots that look like hits end up being not.

Well last week i finally got my new system running, (my old, duo-core 8400, 4 gigs ram, + 550-TI)

New system, I5 quad core, 3.10 ghrz, 8 gigs ram, and the same vid card, the TI-550


My frames are over doubled.. on most maps i was running min graphics, and getting barely 20 FPS,, now i am at medium, and maintain 45-50 95% of the time. Lights and fast mechs are so much easier to hit.. My damage rates have gone up, to I'd say an average or at least +100 a game.. and i am killing those pesky lights a lot easier, even without streaks and using the leg sweep, to get a tiny amount of damage.

So for all those people that think the game is just to hard. check out your comp specs, and perhaps you can build a new system, or get an upgrade, because let me tell you, i am really blown away to how much better i am doing.

For the record, i am far from an Ace pilot, or a competitive guy, but the new upgrade, really has let me enjoy the game a lot more.. Now at least i am at the point that, i can say if my aim is truly off, or it was cause my comp was 3 frames later and i am hitting air, verse what i thought was where the mech was.. (different than ping hit registration, as that is net lag server side, verse Graphic lag client side)

It is like a whole new game... And who knew... Caustic had rising smoke from the ground, Ill tell ya, it does not look like healthy smoke either.. :)

#2 dragnier1

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 01:30 AM

This game's quite intense cpu-wise. Higher framerates do help with smoother gameplay, i played with 10-20 fps like you previously. Another thing is the graphic registering of hits is now server-side, if i recall correctly, so it "should" give us accurate visual feedback.

Anyways, better performance means better

#3 Satan n stuff

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 02:53 AM

View PostJC Daxion, on 22 July 2014 - 04:43 PM, said:

It is like a whole new game... And who knew... Caustic had rising smoke from the ground, Ill tell ya, it does not look like healthy smoke either.. :P

You can turn off the smoke? That might actually be broken, I always use night vision for that.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 04:12 AM

I had this same experience. Went from 12-15 (yes, and don't ask about Frozen City) to a steady 60 on max settings. It was like "wow, this game is easy!"

Enjoy!

Edited by Terciel1976, 23 July 2014 - 04:12 AM.


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Posted 23 July 2014 - 04:33 AM

View PostJC Daxion, on 22 July 2014 - 04:43 PM, said:

i Just wanted to post this because i think this could be part of the problem with some peoples play. So often have i been playing for the last year, and could swear i did way more damage to other mechs during a match, only to end the match, and see 200 damage.. (granted it is more often when fighting those hard to hit lights) but still, o often said to myself.. Man i know i hit mechs way more than that...

Even those shots that look like hits end up being not.

Well last week i finally got my new system running, (my old, duo-core 8400, 4 gigs ram, + 550-TI)

New system, I5 quad core, 3.10 ghrz, 8 gigs ram, and the same vid card, the TI-550


My frames are over doubled.. on most maps i was running min graphics, and getting barely 20 FPS,, now i am at medium, and maintain 45-50 95% of the time. Lights and fast mechs are so much easier to hit.. My damage rates have gone up, to I'd say an average or at least +100 a game.. and i am killing those pesky lights a lot easier, even without streaks and using the leg sweep, to get a tiny amount of damage.

So for all those people that think the game is just to hard. check out your comp specs, and perhaps you can build a new system, or get an upgrade, because let me tell you, i am really blown away to how much better i am doing.

For the record, i am far from an Ace pilot, or a competitive guy, but the new upgrade, really has let me enjoy the game a lot more.. Now at least i am at the point that, i can say if my aim is truly off, or it was cause my comp was 3 frames later and i am hitting air, verse what i thought was where the mech was.. (different than ping hit registration, as that is net lag server side, verse Graphic lag client side)

It is like a whole new game... And who knew... Caustic had rising smoke from the ground, Ill tell ya, it does not look like healthy smoke either.. :P


Common knowledge to any competitive gamer, suggested peripherals have always been:

• PC that can exceed 60 frames per second (Ideal would be 120 frames per second, but 60 frames per second is sufficient. Anything sub/less than 30 frames is not ideal and will hinder your gameplay!)
• 120 Hz or higher PC monitor (i.e. BenQ XL2420Z, ASUS VG248QE)
• High Quality Gaming Mouse (i.e. Razer DeathAdder, Zowie EC1)
• High Quality Mouse Mat (i.e. Steelseries QcK+, PureTrak Talent)
• High Quality Headset (i.e. Seinheiser PC360, Audiotechnica ATH-AD700, or "gaming version" i.e. Steelseries Siberia V2)
• High Quality Sound Card(i.e. Asus Xonar STX Essence)
• Mechanical Keyboard(i.e. Filco Majestouch, Coolermaster QuickFire, Steelseries 7g

Edited by E N E R G Y, 23 July 2014 - 04:54 AM.


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Posted 23 July 2014 - 05:18 AM

I wish that my better PC would result in less lag-shield for those damn rubberbanding spider & Jenner exploitists. :-P

#7 Dracol

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 05:36 AM

Had the same experience. Initial played the game at native resolution and medium graphics. Was only getting 20 fps out of combat. Love the look of the game though.

Then 12 mans came out and my fps was dropping really low. Fiddled with the graphics settings, drop it to lowest resolution and lowest graphics settings and starter getting 40 - 50fps out of combat. It was like I took off the training wheels. Average damage and c-bill earnings exploded.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 05:49 AM

I don't even see why anyone would bother playing any game at <25 FPS average, it just seems it wouldn't be fun. My laptop that is definitely not a gaming one runs MWO at like 10-15 FPS, just not worth even trying.

Gotta stick with my gaming desktop which gets 60+ FPS (except on Frozen City when I back up into my own heat cloud and FPS goes to 20.... they gotta fix that crap its been a problem since beta!)

Edited by CapperDeluxe, 23 July 2014 - 05:50 AM.


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Posted 23 July 2014 - 08:46 AM

Back in February I built a new system. I went from a Core 2 Quad and 8800 GT to an i7 4770K and GTX760. At first I increased my graphics to the highest setting, but I realized what I really wanted is frame rate. To that end, I dropped nearly everything to the lowest setting (while still running at 1900x1200) and now I am getting between 110 and 140 fps consistently instead of 20-40 fps. It makes a world of difference.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 08:47 AM

View PostCapperDeluxe, on 23 July 2014 - 05:49 AM, said:

I don't even see why anyone would bother playing any game at <25 FPS average, it just seems it wouldn't be fun. My laptop that is definitely not a gaming one runs MWO at like 10-15 FPS, just not worth even trying.

Gotta stick with my gaming desktop which gets 60+ FPS (except on Frozen City when I back up into my own heat cloud and FPS goes to 20.... they gotta fix that crap its been a problem since beta!)


In my case, didn't really know any better. Hadn't played a FPS in ten years, had no feeling of what it should be like. <shrug> I still got hooked. :)

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 09:06 AM

The Low quality settings are amazingly bad at seing some things, and getting under 30 FPS will effect your aim. I can attest to both of these, and can see, maneuver, and react much better when I was able to make a similar FPS/Quality jump as you did.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 09:27 AM

JCDaxion,

My last rig was an Athlon II 64 w/16 gig Ram. I didn't even try running MWO until I upgraded last year. That's why I was late to the MWO party.

Now I have a rig comparable to yours:

i5 2320 processor
8 GB ram
GTX650ti 1 GB video card


I'm sure it makes a world of difference going from your old Duo Core to an i5. Congratulations!

Jody

#13 JC Daxion

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 09:47 AM

View PostSatan n stuff, on 23 July 2014 - 02:53 AM, said:

You can turn off the smoke? That might actually be broken, I always use night vision for that.



No, well yes.. If you play at the lowest resolutions, there is no snow on snow city day? and no smoke on caustic.... haven't played all the maps because of the randomness,, Don't think i have been on Space map, and river city day.. maybe something else.. But yea,, big difference in graphics.. Makes me want to just set um all to highest and hit testing just to look around.

View PostE N E R G Y, on 23 July 2014 - 04:33 AM, said:


• High Quality Gaming Mouse (i.e. Razer DeathAdder, Zowie EC1)
• High Quality Mouse Mat (i.e. Steelseries QcK+, PureTrak Talent)



I should give this a try.. I have been using my cheap old Logitec optical for gaming for like ohh 8+ years.. (upgraded from the logical ball mouse,, because the darn things always wore out on me...) I do notice the optical does have a bit of lag in it.. Perhaps i should by a gaming mouse, and just use it for this game.. then swap to my optical for all other things to keep it fresh..

thanks for the tip!



I do plan on upgrading my vid card eventually.. Maybe this winter, getting one of the newer TI cards will be worth while.. Not sure at this point though

Edited by JC Daxion, 23 July 2014 - 09:49 AM.


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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:31 AM

Get a mouse that lets you change dpi on the fly. The ability to slow it down for sniping while using advanced zoom really allows for pinpoint accuracy.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 12:23 PM

View Postmailin, on 23 July 2014 - 10:31 AM, said:

Get a mouse that lets you change dpi on the fly. The ability to slow it down for sniping while using advanced zoom really allows for pinpoint accuracy.


Oh yeah.

#whyireplacedmydeathadderwithamamba

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 01:39 PM

Wow, how did you guys cope with sub 15 FPS? Are you a glutton for punishment? Ya'll must love this game way more than I do :D

Yea, poor FPS has definitely hindered my performance. I'm on the verge of replacing my computer, but I presently have to make resolution and effects sacrifices to maintain a playable FPS. It doesn't make the game look great but at least it's playable. I can't deal with 20 or less FPS at 1920 x 1080. I would rather get 40-60 on a lower resolution and all low graphics settings. Yea, you will lose some scope of your vision and there are definitely some serious "ghost terrain" issues on places like Tourmaline, but at least it doesn't seem like you're looking at a flip-book.

I can get 50-60 FPS most of the time on places like HPG, Canyon, and Alpine, but on places with heavier weather and particle effects such as Frozen City. River City, etc, it can get pretty low. And it actually shows in the stats too! My W/L tends to be better on places where I get smoother gameplay. It sucks though, getting half the FPS you normally get on another map.

I plan on getting a new computer soon, though I probably won't replace my monitor, which is a 60 Hz monitor. So getting above 60 FPS for me won't really do anything. If you're a casual gamer like me you probably won't need more than a steady 60 FPS. However, if you are playing on 30 FPS or less, upping that FPS in any way possible will benefit you a lot more than other smaller things like a nice mouse, macros, and other things that are used to get a competitive edge at already high levels.





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