76 replies to this topic

[Sephlock]

I've gone all the way from cackling evilly to snickering cruelly to sneering down the rim of my lorgnette to feeling a twinge of pity.

Why not throw the poor peons mere mortals general public a bone?

I mean, think about it in the long term:

Are we NEVER going to have Clan trial mechs?

Are we going to have to wait until they're all out?

Are we going to start releasing trial equivalents as each Clan mech is released for c-bills? At the very least, why not do that?

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The ones who cried the hardest and were the most unreasonable about it should not only miss out on these trial mechs, but they should be banned from ever playing Clan mechs forever .

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I guess I should specify, since this is MW:O we're talking about, that I am referring to trial mechs being released NOW, not in a year like other things-that-were-suggested that eventually got implemented.

[Armament]

I wouldn't mind, maybe then people would stop complaining about them being so op and p2w.

[Sephlock]

[anonymous161]

I say no, trials once all are officially released, otherwise why the F did I spend 240 bucks to get them early for then if all I had to do is wait not even a month after release to get to use them? I think there are enough clanners on now anyways, no need.

[xMintaka]

I'm not against the idea. Once they start being released for c-bills.

If they start offering trial Clan mechs now, what did we pay for?

They don't even need champion versions, most of them are pretty good stock.

[Pariah Devalis]

I say yes. I would very much like a set of trial Clan Mechs. Then they could make 4 (1 per weight class) rotating IS Trial mechs and 4 rotating Clan Trial mechs every month. One, it will make a lot of the whiners actually get a taste for what a Clan mech's flaws are, and, two, it helps with Clan internal trials as several of us use trial or stock mechs in certain TOP, and using a Clan mech is just plain preferred if given the option.

[The Amazing Atomic Spaniel]

Never!

The only way I ever manage to kill anything is because of the colossal and, frankly, rather unfair advantages given to me by my 2ERPPC Thor of Doom.

[Willard Phule]

LOL! WOW!

On the one side, you have people screaming that Clantech is "pay to win."
On the other, you have people screaming that it's not.

Then....you get the whole "but, I paid a bajillion dollars for this!" Dude. If that's not a "pay to win" attitude, I don't know what is.

Frankly, I'd LOVE to see some trial Omnis. IT WON'T CHANGE A THING.

90% of the time, the Trial mechs are piloted by mouthbreathing derps that can't even make it out of spawn without shooting their own teammates. What makes you think that if you put them in an Omni, they're going to miraculously become better?

[Reno Blade]

There could be the champion (typicaly as trial for 2 weeks then available for MC) for clanmechs, but they should be limited in number and time of release.

On one hand, they could help to sell a few more packs now, but buying champions will cost MC anyways.
And on the other hand, releasing trial clan-mechs before they are released for CBills, would make the "early access for MC" for the pack AND the 2 week earlyer MC release look like a waste of money.

I'd say wait for CBill release in general for any champion (trial) mech.
Not much sense to release a champion before the chassis itself.

And probably do it for the Stormcrow first, because that (stock prime) would be a good middle ground. Lights are a bit nichee and heavy/assaults are totally overused already.

[EyeOne]

Go for it. I didn't preorder clan mechs so I could have them before everyone else. I really don't care anything about that. I did it for the Cbill bonus.

What are we? 5 year olds?

[Sephlock]

Darth Bane001, on 07 July 2014 - 05:43 AM, said:

I say no, trials once all are officially released, otherwise why the F did I spend 240 bucks to get them early for then if all I had to do is wait not even a month after release to get to use them? I think there are enough clanners on now anyways, no need.

The ability to play mister potato head, which is their greatest strength?

Lunatech, on 07 July 2014 - 05:44 AM, said:

I'm not against the idea. Once they start being released for c-bills.

If they start offering trial Clan mechs now, what did we pay for?

They don't even need champion versions, most of them are pretty good stock.

Are they really? What about the Summoner ?

OH OH! And for those of you with a spiteful edge (not saying the one I am replying to is, I just happened to think of this just now), we could make the trial versions ALL HAVE THE INNER SPHERE NAMES FOR THE MECHS!

LIKE THE RED LETTERS OF SHAME IN CALL OF DUTY, POINTING OUT WHO DOESN'T HAVE THE MAP PACK!

HUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

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RocketDog, on 07 July 2014 - 05:47 AM, said:

Never!

The only way I ever manage to kill anything is because of the colossal and, frankly, rather unfair advantages given to me by my 2ERPPC Thor of Doom.

I need to introduce you to Bishop Steiner. If I'm right, the resultant matter-antimatter explosion should tear a hole in the fabric of space-time and open a portal to the Battletech universe.

Or the Teletubbies universe.

[Ben Morgan]

Sephlock, on 07 July 2014 - 05:54 AM, said:

I need to introduce you to Bishop Steiner. If I'm right, the resultant matter-antimatter explosion should tear a hole in the fabric of space-time and open a portal to the Battletech universe.

Or the Teletubbies universe.

Let's hope for BattleTech there.

Anyways, what I wanted to say about the topic is that I really wouldn't mind at all. There are already more than enough clanners out there, some more can't hurt. Also all the whining butthurt: "He get's a shiny new toy while I just have my giant slug AC20" will maybe stop/reduce when there are some Clan-Trials. Although, scratch that, the whining will continue with: "He can customize it and make it OP while I'm stuck here on a maximized Champion-Trial, buhuu."

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Don't care.

[Bobzilla]

I wouldn't mind them as trial mechs, I paid to have to not wait to own and customize them. I didn't buy them so I could have something others didn't. Having the use of a trial mech is absoultly nothing like owning one, and I doubt those who bought any clan content wouldn't have if they knew there would be a couple available as trials.

I would also add that they wouldn't change anyones mind about them being OP, because they would just blame it on the loadouts.

In compromise they could have 2 clan mechs as trials, one of each of the next ones to come out. Once one comes out switch it for the next one down the line.

Edited by Bobzilla, 07 July 2014 - 06:04 AM.

[Marmon Rzohr]

I'm okay with that idea. Might even work as an incentive to for people to buy them if the like em. They are truly great works of design with a completely different sound, look and feel to them. I know hopping in one would make me want to buy one

Plus it really might defuse the OMG OP accusations.

But in the end this is a business consideration above all else.

[Solahma]

I don't really care either way. I see enough clan mechs on the battlefield as it is though. I really like the mix of IS and Clan mechs that are in the game at the moment. Based on that, I hope they don't add trial clans for a long time, but my feelings won't be hurt if they add 1-2 in the next few months.

[Livewyr]

After their release for Cbills, I am cool with a Trial mech. (Most of their stock configs are decent anyways.. Clans knew how to build a mech..)

I think the first one is the Kitfox, so I could see a Kitfox Prime Trial when it is released for Cbills.

[Ultimax]

Willard Phule, on 07 July 2014 - 05:50 AM, said:

Then....you get the whole "but, I paid a bajillion dollars for this!" Dude. If that's not a "pay to win" attitude, I don't know what is.

You have completely misread those posts.

They are stating that they have paid for early access, which is for the most part what you pay for with a pre-order.


Anything else could later be purchased with MC or CBills, except for the most meager of perks (like digital art the entire internet has access to) and slightly different Prime Variant appearance.


For me, as a Pack owner I have no issue with them bringing out Trial Clan Mechs.

They won't be able to make use of skills (which is huge, really), won't be able to change their weapon load outs which are likely to be bad/mediocre, and lastly they won't be able to take advantage of the Omni-pod swaps, which is easily the best overall feature of Clan mechs IMO.


That being said, the Clan mechs were literally just released. Russ has stated clan trial mechs are planned.

I know this is an internet forum, but people need to have a touch more patience than my two year old is capable of (not aimed at Sephlock directly).

Edited by Ultimatum X, 07 July 2014 - 06:09 AM.

[Prezimonto]

I've stated even before they were released that this would be a good idea.

[Willard Phule]

Ultimatum X, on 07 July 2014 - 06:06 AM, said:

You have completely misread those posts.

They are stating that they have paid for early access, which is for the most part what you pay for with a pre-order.


Anything else could later be purchased with MC or CBills, except for the most meager of perks (like digital art the entire internet has access to) and slightly different Prime Variant appearance.


For me, as a Pack owner I have no issue with them bringing out Trial Clan Mechs.

They won't be able to make use of skills (which is huge, really), won't be able to change their weapon load outs which are likely to be bad/mediocre, and lastly they won't be able to take advantage of the Omni-pod swaps, which is easily the best overall feature of Clan mechs IMO.


That being said, the Clan mechs were literally just released. Russ has stated clan trial mechs are planned.

I know this is an internet forum, but people need to have a touch more patience than my two year old is capable of (not aimed at Sephlock directly).

Don't misunderstand me, dude. I bought the TW ala-carte, but I didn't do it because I thought it was pay to win. And I still don't. It's "pay to have a temporary advantage" and even that's not much of an advantage when you consider all the stumbling morons in the public queue. I don't know what you guys are seeing in the group queue, because I don't drop in groups.

What I was referring to was the 20-30 threads out there about how Clans are pay to win and the equal number of threads that say it isn't. By saying "I didn't spend $500 to have to watch other people get them for free", it kind of sounds like a "pay to win" attitude, y'know?

Edited by Willard Phule, 07 July 2014 - 06:24 AM.