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[paladin yst]

So when can innersphere mechs use clan weaponry?

Ive heard some absurd rumours about inner sphere mechs not being able to use clan wep which is ridiculous, so just wondering when can we use clan wep, do we have to wait till they release all clan mechs or what

[Racklesnack]

They've already stated there will be no mixed tech, so what you heard is right about the IS mechs not being able to run clan weapons.

[paladin yst]

What in the world is this, wtf refund me money for buying is heroes lol.

Seriously is this for real or what, who in the world gonna use those inferior worthless is mech when they release all clan mech.

[Lordred]

IS did not reverese enginere Clan weapons to work on IS till about 3054

[The Blood God]

they might buff IS tech eventually because they're following a time line in which after the clan invasion IS stepped things up a bit and eventually kick the clans back where they came from

YES the clans lost the war in the story if im not mistaken

[Mcgral18]

paladin yst, on 12 July 2014 - 08:53 AM, said:

What in the world is this, wtf refund me money for buying is heroes lol.

Seriously is this for real or what, who in the world gonna use those inferior worthless is mech when they release all clan mech.

FLD ACs

Shorter burn lasers, which deal more damage than the Clan lasers in one second, ERML aside.

10 heat PPCs.



Yep, inferior. Absolutely inferior.

[Zerberus]

paladin yst, on 12 July 2014 - 08:46 AM, said:

So when can innersphere mechs use clan weaponry?

Ive heard some absurd rumours about inner sphere mechs not being able to use clan wep which is ridiculous, so just wondering when can we use clan wep, do we have to wait till they release all clan mechs or what

1. You may think it`s ridiculous, but until at least 3052 that`s exactly the way it`s supposed to be (3 years from now if following the recently reset timeline 1:1). The DCMS manages to capture clan tech later this year on Wolcott, and need 2 years to understand and reverse engineer it.

2. Just because Clan-tech was the endgame content in previous SP versions of MW (which allowed mixtech) does not mean it is the same here, in a game that was actually designed as a MP game instead of being a SP game with a massively broken MP mode halfassedly tacked on.

3. Can we then also put IS weapons on Clan mechs? Because if you wish to completely remove the only balancing factors that exist from one faction, you sure as hell better be ready to lift them the other way around, too. I would LOVE access to IS ACs, (non-er) PPCs, short burn /low heat lasers, and LRMs... but I guarantee you wouldn`t love me having it.

TL,DR: Currently puretech is here to stay, and the devs have voiced absolutely NO intention of changing that, ever. Either accept it and keep playing (thereby realizing that the IS mechs are not actually weaker, just different), or take your ball and go home

Edited by Zerberus, 12 July 2014 - 09:05 AM.

[Scratx]

paladin yst, on 12 July 2014 - 08:53 AM, said:

What in the world is this, wtf refund me money for buying is heroes lol.

Seriously is this for real or what, who in the world gonna use those inferior worthless is mech when they release all clan mech.

Sooooo.... you are suggesting that the far superior in customizability mechs be allowed to use both their current equipment and use the Clan's arguably superior (they have tradeoffs that in most cases make them not so superior at all afterall) equipment/weapons...

... Lore issues aside (IS doesn't instantly start producing clantech at all), why do you think this suggestion is in any way balanced? Why would you use a clan omni if you can use an IS mech with superior hit boxes, fully customizable upgrades, superior hardpoint positions (see Jagermech, Stalker, etc, with high mounted hardpoints), unlocked engines ( no more being stuck with an engine that eats way too much tonnage), no fixed gear and crit slots that restrict your build........ etc.

Really, do tell. I'm sure it will be fascinating.

[LauLiao]

paladin yst, on 12 July 2014 - 08:53 AM, said:

What in the world is this, wtf refund me money for buying is heroes lol.

Seriously is this for real or what, who in the world gonna use those inferior worthless is mech when they release all clan mech.

I will. Because IS tech is hardly worthless. If you approach clan mechs in the open without any cover allowing them to use their superior range to whittle you down before you can return fire then yes 1) Clan mechs are superior and 2) you're a bad pilot. However, once you get inside IS optimal range, the IS mechs are just as good if not better.

I only use IS mechs and have not done any worse since facing clan mechs. Heck, in a lot of instances I'm doing better.

[paladin yst]

Holyshit this is for real, is cant use clan wep, wtf is this lol, theres not a single mechwarrior game where is cant use clan tech, wtf.....

No one is stupid enough to use is mech unless they love losing, totally inferior mechs, holding everything equal, clan xl engine is totally superior than the heavy and useless standard engine or the suicider seeking inferior is xl engine.

This is f stupid, i thought its a frikking april fools joke, now that it seems like this stupid design is real, frikking ridiculous. There is not a single reason to use those totally inferior in every single aspect is mechs.

[Scratx]

paladin yst, on 12 July 2014 - 09:09 AM, said:

Holyshit this is for real, is cant use clan wep, wtf is this lol, theres not a single mechwarrior game where is cant use clan tech, wtf.....

No one is stupid enough to use is mech unless they love losing, totally inferior mechs, holding everything equal, clan xl engine is totally superior than the heavy and useless standard engine or the suicider seeking inferior is xl engine.

This is f stupid, i thought its a frikking april fools joke, now that it seems like this stupid design is real, frikking ridiculous. There is not a single reason to use those totally inferior in every single aspect is mechs.

...

*downgrades OP to the status of Troll*

[CHH Badkarma]

paladin yst, on 12 July 2014 - 09:09 AM, said:

Holyshit this is for real, is cant use clan wep, wtf is this lol, theres not a single mechwarrior game where is cant use clan tech, wtf.....

No one is stupid enough to use is mech unless they love losing, totally inferior mechs, holding everything equal, clan xl engine is totally superior than the heavy and useless standard engine or the suicider seeking inferior is xl engine.

This is f stupid, i thought its a frikking april fools joke, now that it seems like this stupid design is real, frikking ridiculous. There is not a single reason to use those totally inferior in every single aspect is mechs.

Someone just went "full re-tard". What a waste of a forum topic

Edited by CHH Badkarma, 12 July 2014 - 09:24 AM.

[FupDup]

Seeing how the main weakness of Clan weaponry is that it has to be mounted on a Clan Omnimech -- which cannot customize many parts of its "core" -- Clan weapons should never be mountable on IS battlemechs. IS Omnimechs would be understandable, because they would be utterly inferior to IS battlemechs otherwise, but normal IS mechs should never get Clan tech. Otherwise, nobody would ever use Clan Omnis again.

[Slepnir]

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Seriously is this for real or what, who in the world gonna use those inferior worthless is mech when they release all clan mech.

Funny I must be doing something wrong when I kick the crap outta clan mechs with my "worthless" IS mechs

[Mcgral18]

paladin yst, on 12 July 2014 - 09:09 AM, said:

Holyshit this is for real, is cant use clan wep, wtf is this lol, theres not a single mechwarrior game where is cant use clan tech, wtf.....

No one is stupid enough to use is mech unless they love losing, totally inferior mechs, holding everything equal, clan xl engine is totally superior than the heavy and useless standard engine or the suicider seeking inferior is xl engine.

This is f stupid, i thought its a frikking april fools joke, now that it seems like this stupid design is real, frikking ridiculous. There is not a single reason to use those totally inferior in every single aspect is mechs.

[Sephlock]

Mcgral18, on 12 July 2014 - 08:54 AM, said:

FLD ACs

Shorter burn lasers, which deal more damage than the Clan lasers in one second, ERML aside.

10 heat PPCs.



Yep, inferior. Absolutely inferior.

Stop trying to reason with him. It won't work.

[Fastwind]

NEVER

[paladin yst]

LauLiao, on 12 July 2014 - 09:09 AM, said:

I will. Because IS tech is hardly worthless. If you approach clan mechs in the open without any cover allowing them to use their superior range to whittle you down before you can return fire then yes 1) Clan mechs are superior and 2) you're a bad pilot. However, once you get inside IS optimal range, the IS mechs are just as good if not better.

I only use IS mechs and have not done any worse since facing clan mechs. Heck, in a lot of instances I'm doing better.

Lol funniest thing i heard all day.

Prolly too blind or not smart enough to see clan tech is 101% totally superior than is.

Is med laser dps 1.25 hps 1
Clan med dps 1.63 hps 1.16

30% more dps at a cost of 16% more heat, way longer range. Unless u fail in math lol theres nothing more to say. Dont even get me started on lrms lol.

Is med pulse dps 1.67 hps 1.28
Clan sml pulse dps 1.47 hps 0.8 13.6% less dps, 10% less range at a cost of crazy 60% less heat and 50% less weigh.

Do the math, only terrible pilots fail to see the superior str of clan tech. My madcat did 1368 dmg without even trying hard, fight my ass off as is couldnt even hit 1.3k

[ChapeL]

Yep, that one is done folks... nothing left to see here.

[paladin yst]

Glad to know theres so many idioits in mwo forum. Post a simple question and trolls came out from hiding.

Keep on trolling guys.

Edited by paladin yst, 12 July 2014 - 09:39 AM.