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[DarthPeanut]

I am struggling to like my 9B as well since the ac2 changes and clan high dps builds. You cannot be exposed long enough to be effective without taking a beating yourself.

I have my 9B setup with 2x ac2, 1x uac5, and an erppc on the opposing arm.. but it just sits unused right now honestly.

When I first bought it I tried 2x uac5 and couple large lasers or ppc. Not thrilled with how that worked. Maybe an ac20/ 2x ppc build. Hate to not use the 3 ballistic points but there really is no strong build for it and exposing yourself in any way to try to use all that dakka is asking to be wrecked at this point.

[N E R E V A R]

Took first place under lone wolves in the faction revenge tournament with most of my best matches in a victor 9b with 2ppcs and an AC20.

[DarthPeanut]

Itheseus Nevversan, on 30 July 2014 - 07:03 AM, said:

Took first place under lone wolves in the faction revenge tournament with most of my best matches in a victor 9b with 2ppcs and an AC20.

What engine did you run? I am thinking of sticking with the XL360 I currently run, 2x JJ, 5 tons of ac20, 14DHS, etc.

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GIANT TARGET, on 29 July 2014 - 04:57 PM, said:

In order to get all 30 points of damage, you're at least having to expose for some amount of time your entire upper torso. Compare to just the right torso + arm for the DS or the 3D. Your hang time (ie, JJs) also must be increased significantly to expose both arms which also leads to taking a smaller engine or less heatsinks.

If you're poptarting, then it doesn't matter that you have to expose your whole torso compared to the DS. The DS is going to do that for the same amount of time, too while taking jump shots.

The problem is after you've fired, you don't have a dead side to twist towards your target. So you either have to spread damage equally, and run the risk of losing both arms in sequence. Or you have to sacrifice half your loadout. You also don't have the ability to reduce armor on the left arm to take another heat sink, jump jet, or ammo. Finally, the convergence is worse.

Itheseus Nevversan, on 30 July 2014 - 07:03 AM, said:

Took first place under lone wolves in the faction revenge tournament with most of my best matches in a victor 9b with 2ppcs and an AC20.

That was right before the AC range reduction. That build is a lot more difficult to use now.

The 9B is probably better as a brawler.

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DarthPeanut, on 30 July 2014 - 07:32 AM, said:

What engine did you run? I am thinking of sticking with the XL360 I currently run, 2x JJ, 5 tons of ac20, 14DHS, etc.

Mizeur, on 30 July 2014 - 07:51 AM, said:

If you're poptarting, then it doesn't matter that you have to expose your whole torso compared to the DS. The DS is going to do that for the same amount of time, too while taking jump shots.

The problem is after you've fired, you don't have a dead side to twist towards your target. So you either have to spread damage equally, and run the risk of losing both arms in sequence. Or you have to sacrifice half your loadout. You also don't have the ability to reduce armor on the left arm to take another heat sink, jump jet, or ammo. Finally, the convergence is worse.


That was right before the AC range reduction. That build is a lot more difficult to use now.

The 9B is probably better as a brawler.

GIANT TARGET, on 30 July 2014 - 03:14 PM, said:

There's always going to be a second or second and half where you face the target. During that second, the DS has an option to leave half of its mass covered whereas a 9B/9S will not unless I'm content with just dealing 20 points. And yes the lack of a shield side is another negative that I didn't mention.

I'm also wondering about Itheseus's build. I have a 325 XL on mine right now but that gives me room to put in an SRM6 which I may just get rid of.

Decided to pug and record a match today just for you guys. Made a few mistakes but it shows how the build works.

Link to smurfy http://mwo.smurfy-ne...cd979b250b324a1

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Itheseus Nevversan, on 31 July 2014 - 09:16 AM, said:

Decided to pug and record a match today just for you guys. Made a few mistakes but it shows how the build works.

Link to smurfy http://mwo.smurfy-ne...cd979b250b324a1

That sure looks like fun. Its been a while since I tried a build like that, will have to try it out tonight.

[DarthPeanut]

Gave it a shot last night and it was ok.

Also tried an AC20 w/5t, 2 LL, SRM4 w/1t, 2 JJ, and then all the remaining in dhs. Was decent as well for me.

I miss the pre-nerf victors turn and twist speeds.

Edited by DarthPeanut, 01 August 2014 - 05:27 AM.