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#1 ecued

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 05:16 PM

weapons groups not saving, and before the trolls start asking stupid questions, the answer is, no not after changing them or anything else. this has been an ongoing problem for months. when the hell do you think you will fix this bug? will it be before or after your next cash grab mech package?

Edited by ecued, 26 July 2014 - 05:17 PM.


#2 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 05:24 PM

I lose the group linked to the Mouse B button all the time. It's aggravating!

#3 Impyrium

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 05:31 PM

Curious, I've never run into this problem. I mean, they don't save between computers, since I switch between my desktop and laptop a lot. Do you mean using the 'Mech Lab's weapon grouping options? Because I've heard they don't work well, and I only use the in-game options anyway.

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 05:34 PM

Randomly on Thursday I set my Groups, on Saturday my #2 group is gone. No patch just gone.

#5 Felicitatem Parco

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 05:36 PM

View Postecued, on 26 July 2014 - 05:16 PM, said:

... before the trolls...

View Postecued, on 26 July 2014 - 05:16 PM, said:

will it be before or after your next cash grab mech package?


Ooohh, too late.

#6 Henree

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 05:50 PM

same here and disconnects and lag.

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Edited by Henri Schoots, 26 July 2014 - 05:51 PM.


#7 Y E O N N E

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 06:23 PM

I got fragged in my Locust 3M by a Timberwolf with cherry red legs that I should have downed but didn't because I noticed too late that my Group 1 had reset from left side weapons to alpha. I had been alpha-striking until heat soak and just wanted to fire a pair. It alpha-struck again and boom! Overheat and dead.

I have had all my groups frequently reset on the Locust, Catapult, Blackjack, Dragon, and Stalker chassis. It's getting kind of obnoxious.

#8 Angel of Annihilation

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 08:46 PM

I never have this problem outside of when they do a major patch. Not even once.

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 09:40 PM

Lol. More then two months passed (may be even more) and problem is still not fixed, despite I've already found what causes it and created ton of tickets to explain it to developers. Problem appeared after last patch with weapon groups reset. This problem is caused by shared mechs IDs - i.e. pair of mechs having exact the same mech IDs, which leads to their weapon groups being saved to exact the same place, messing each other. I guess, about 10 of my mechs are involved - both old and new (including clan) ones.. The problem is more likely server-side: mech IDs numerator in their DB was broken somehow after one of the patches. As I already said, I've created tons of tickets, trying to explain it to developers, but the answers always was "we need to collect more data to find out what causes this bug, so send us your Omicron/DxDiag/Weapongroups files". Yea, pointless work - they just trying to make an illusion, that they actually care about it. So at some point I've just given up. I think this bug will never be fixed.

#10 AlexEss

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 09:49 PM

Am i the only one who always take a few seconds to make usre my groups are set up the way i like it...?

Especially as i have a different setup for hot maps then i have for cold maps or neutral ones. And sicne my average setup ue three or four weapon groups it is simply not any way for me to have one single loadout.

#11 Kiiyor

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 09:57 PM

RUN THE FIX THINGIE.

Same thing happened to me. Fix thingie fixed the group thing.

#12 Y E O N N E

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 10:02 PM

I have run it twice.

I have also already tried uninstalling and re-installing the game.

This isn't the only issue I'm having, either. I sometimes get kicked out of the game upon clicking the "Exit Match" button at the end of a round. No error message of any sort or other funny behavior from the computer, just a dump back to the desktop.

#13 Infine

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 10:19 PM

Confirming.

I had a DDC and bough TDR-9SE yesterday. Their weapon groups are overlapping. That is, if I play DDC and then TDR (or vice versa), weapon grouping resets, and chainfire settings persist across both chassis.

Removing weapongroups.xml didn't help. The problem is only with those 2 chassis. If I play anything else and only one of those - everything is fine. If I play both of them, their groups reset.

#14 monk

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 12:35 AM

Fix tool does not seem to fix this. I think Infine is on the right track. It seems to be specific mechs that somehow are overwritting and or corrupting the weapongroups.xml. I also run the AS7-D-DC and it is currently resetting my weapon groups. I've had issues playing the D-DC and my JM6-DD. When I play one and then the other the groups seem to reset. It's EXTREMELY annoying to have to reset your weapon groups every game. The odd part is it only started doing this again with the last patch. It was an issues several patches ago, though I don't know which mechs were causing the issue.

#15 DaisuSaikoro Nagasawa

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 12:39 AM

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Edited by Daisu Saikoro, 28 July 2014 - 12:45 AM.


#16 John1352

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 02:46 AM

I almost always look at my arrangement when I switch mechs, mainly because all my mechs have different ones, and I usually forget to do it in mechlab when I change guns. I think the ingame switches actually save more reliably than the mechlab ones!

I played almost a month before I realized the tip in the mechlab weapons configuration meant that you can reconfigure in game, so for any new guys, use arrow keys to select a weapon and key in game, and right ctrl to toggle whether it fires that weapon.

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 03:14 AM

It seems random. I kept losing the weapon groups on my C1 and 4G, for a while now it's only been the 4G ;)

#18 LoneMaverick

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 03:17 AM

View PostWolfways, on 28 July 2014 - 03:14 AM, said:

It seems random. I kept losing the weapon groups on my C1 and 4G, for a while now it's only been the 4G ;)

Interesting, same here, only its just my CPLT-C4 and my HBK-4P that always reset, none of my other mechs seem to have this problem.

I'm just going out on a limb and guessing it has something to do with all the derpy things going on with the servers atm, perhaps once they institute this "fix" they've talked about on reddit it'll stop happening.

#19 Slackjawlocal

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 03:30 AM

I have had no problem with weapon grouping in the Mech Lab or the in game option even chain fire has been working 100%.
Now I have gone into the Mech Bay and changed the weapon grouping then exited with out hitting the Save before leaving the weapons grouping tab. But as long as I hit save before leaving the tab it has worked 100%.

#20 zagibu

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 04:05 AM

Whenever I run my HGN, it resets the weapon groups on my JR7. Whenever I run my JR7, it resets the weapon groups on my HGN. All my other mechs don't have this problem.

This problem appeared some months ago, maybe 2-3.

Edited by zagibu, 28 July 2014 - 04:06 AM.






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