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#1 Superslicks

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 11:50 AM

Now I know I am quite a good player as with a lot of you guys are, but lately I've been playing less and less because before the last patch I was doing ok, win some lose some, I was more than happy with that, but now, its lose lose lose, properly played 7 games too night and haven't one, one
This now happens every night now, its got to a stage now were I really cant be bothered anymore
I watch all my teammates get wiped out, and I then just give up the fight.
will properly stick around to see how this game plays out, but other than that I really don't no what to do.
regards
josh

#2 Nicholas Carlyle

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 11:52 AM

Well first question...are you really looking for help or just to whine?

I played a match where we were down 4 just now, and was down to 2 Medium Lasers and we ended up winning. So I hate quitting.

But if you are looking for help, first are you solo or grouped? And then give us an idea of what you are piloting. Load outs are important.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 11:52 AM

Then change your reason of playing to fighting giant stompy robots not winning. It makes the game(and most games) more enjoyable.

Edited by Dymlos2003, 07 July 2014 - 11:53 AM.


#4 Nicholas Carlyle

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:00 PM

View PostDymlos2003, on 07 July 2014 - 11:52 AM, said:

Then change your reason of playing to fighting giant stompy robots not winning. It makes the game(and most games) more enjoyable.


Have to win sometimes, otherwise you are going to move on. It's just human nature. It's why LeBron James left Cleveland.

Not saying you have to win EVERY game, but it's disheartening to be on a long losing streak.

But self-evaluation is important, because you are the only thing that is a constant in every one of those losses.

Are you trying to take charge in chat? Are you staying with the group or soloing? Lots of variables.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:08 PM

I have found the solo queue so much more invigorating since the patch. I feel I have a much more significant impact in the results of the match. I feel when I play poorly or make bad decisions my team will suffer for it.

All that really needs to change at this point for the solo queue is to place new player's Elo at the low end not the middle. Give them some time(more importantly c-bills) to climb up the ranks.

Also instead of watching your team mates die there are many other more useful things you could be doing with that time.

#6 Superslicks

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:09 PM

thanks Nicholas,
And guys it not a bloody whine, if it was a whine I wouldn't be so bloody polite,

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:12 PM

Omg there is so much units looking for players and I can bet he didnt even look at that...

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:12 PM

most of the time Nicholas the team decides to go into scatter mode, and now matter how many times you try to get them to regroup they don't.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:14 PM

View PostSuperslicks, on 07 July 2014 - 12:09 PM, said:

thanks Nicholas,
And guys it not a bloody whine, if it was a whine I wouldn't be so bloody polite,



Well like I said, ask for help. Or like Cico said, find a unit. Units are a great place to learn.

But don't just give up, there is A LOT to this game. If you aren't doing well, it might just be something simple like your tactics or load out.

View PostSuperslicks, on 07 July 2014 - 12:12 PM, said:

most of the time Nicholas the team decides to go into scatter mode, and now matter how many times you try to get them to regroup they don't.


Totally appreciate that in PUG matches, but sometimes you need to just keep on it. They do listen at times. And if it comes down to it, follow the biggest group.

But maybe you need a unit, so you can see what organized play looks like.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:15 PM

Yes the real question is are you a solo or in a premade group/guild. If solo well the days of mooching off pre-mades on-your-side wins are over, we PUGs need to pilot better and/or change load out, I find the solo que more entertaining and not have to face off a 12 man premade group thats gonna eat you for breakfast.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:20 PM

welcome to the internets where having an opinon someone doesn't like is whining. I guess that would make sense if threads like these were one off's with no basis in reality, but the fact is MWO isn't exactly booming in the population department and there's probably a good reason for that. Dymlos is a horridly toxic member of this community, everything he posts is abrasive and rude, I wouldn't take anything he says personally, TBH.

Edited by girl on fire, 07 July 2014 - 12:24 PM.


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:21 PM

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:23 PM

View PostSuperslicks, on 07 July 2014 - 11:50 AM, said:

Now I know I am quite a good player as with a lot of you guys are, but lately I've been playing less and less because before the last patch I was doing ok, win some lose some, I was more than happy with that, but now, its lose lose lose, properly played 7 games too night and haven't one, one
This now happens every night now, its got to a stage now were I really cant be bothered anymore
I watch all my teammates get wiped out, and I then just give up the fight.
will properly stick around to see how this game plays out, but other than that I really don't no what to do.
regards
josh


Bad luck streaks happen to everyone, it sounds like that's probably what you've been getting. And with lowered morale, it snowballs...

Well, the first thing is, crap happens. Accept it.

Then, what can you do to turn this around? Look at what you are doing. What mechs are you using, what loadouts are you taking. Do your tactics work well with them? Are they good in a PuG match? How well do they hold up against Clan mechs? And what about IS mechs?

The best road to self-improvement is analyzing what you are doing wrong and working to correct that. Ingrained bad habits need stamping out. Impatience needs temperance. Tactical awareness needs expansion. Etc.

The reward for this?

Winning. Feeling like you're carrying the team, no matter how sucky it is. It's a great feeling, even when you lose the match, knowing that you tore your opponents a LOT of new holes.

And whether your idea of fun is winning or not, it's always a lot more fun to be giving at least as much as you're getting.


If you need specific advice, though, you'll have to tell us more about how you play.

Have fun, mechwarrior. :D

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:26 PM

View PostScratx, on 07 July 2014 - 12:23 PM, said:


Bad luck streaks happen to everyone, it sounds like that's probably what you've been getting. And with lowered morale, it snowballs...

Well, the first thing is, crap happens. Accept it.

Then, what can you do to turn this around? Look at what you are doing. What mechs are you using, what loadouts are you taking. Do your tactics work well with them? Are they good in a PuG match? How well do they hold up against Clan mechs? And what about IS mechs?

The best road to self-improvement is analyzing what you are doing wrong and working to correct that. Ingrained bad habits need stamping out. Impatience needs temperance. Tactical awareness needs expansion. Etc.

The reward for this?

Winning. Feeling like you're carrying the team, no matter how sucky it is. It's a great feeling, even when you lose the match, knowing that you tore your opponents a LOT of new holes.

And whether your idea of fun is winning or not, it's always a lot more fun to be giving at least as much as you're getting.


If you need specific advice, though, you'll have to tell us more about how you play.

Have fun, mechwarrior. :D

^ this is how you communicate and discuss like a normal human being. Dymlos, take notes.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:27 PM

it doesn't matter haw many in a row you win or lose - after 4000 games for me it always works out to 50/50 W/L in the end

#16 Devlin Pierce

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:29 PM

Just blast some of the old Mech warrior game soundtracks while you play, it makes even the miserable losses that much more epic.

One thing that has helped me, especially in pug matches, is to just realize I cannot control random people on the internet. I do not let myself get stressed when my team makes dumb decisions, I just try and do my best to turn their dumb maneuvers into good ones by supporting as best I can, or exploiting the distraction their failure provides.

If you fret over everyone elses actions you are just going to burn yourself out and quit.

Edited by Devlin Pierce, 07 July 2014 - 12:31 PM.


#17 Quick n Fast

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:36 PM

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This now happens every night now, its got to a stage now were I really cant be bothered anymore
I watch all my teammates get wiped out, and I then just give up the fight.

so ur standing round just watchin ur team die? then give up when they are dieing? sounds like you gave up b4 the fightin even started.
bravo ty for pointin out to the forums ur uselessness...

#18 Warblood

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:38 PM

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it doesn't matter haw many in a row you win or lose - after 4000 games for me it always works out to 50/50 W/L in the end

QFT

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:46 PM

to me Solo que has never been better. Sorry to anyone looking for easy win group drops.

Also sorry to those who drop with 1-2 friends who have been getting eaten alive by 12mans

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:47 PM

OP, this is your wake up call to learn new skills. The battlefield has changed (again) and your skills are probably geared toward the old balance. Its time to step up and maybe join a current team to learn new skills. The game is, imo, more fun than before the Clans and I definitely lose more often than before. I plan to gear up and learn new sh*t.

The game isnt beating you. You are beating you. Improvise, adapt, overcome.





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