24 replies to this topic

[Andi Nagasia]

will the Raptor- 25T Inner Sphere OmniMech,
be the first InnerSphere OmniMech? as well as their first Light OmniMech?

i believe this is the Advantage InnerSphere needs to combat the Clans,
as well as increase use for InnerSphere lights,

Raptor
-Production Information-
Manufacturer- Luthien Armor Works- OmniMech Production Facility
Production Year- 3052
Model- RTX1-O
Class- Light
Cost- 3,917,448 C-bills

-Technical Specifications-
Mass- 25 tons
Chassis- Endo-Steel
Armor- Star Slab/4
Engine- Omni 175 XL
Heat Sink- 10 Double heat sinks
Speed- 118.8 km/h

-Armament-
Primary Configuration
3x LRM-5s
2x Machine Guns
2x Medium Lasers
2x Small Lasers

Should this be one of the first IS Omni Mechs to see MWO?

Edit- i understand the time line was rolled back to 3049, from 3051,
just commenting on that they could roll it back up 3 years at a later date,
but still your thoughts on if it should be upand comming,

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 25 July 2014 - 09:46 PM.

[Davers]

I really doubt it.

[Mcgral18]

Seeing as it's 3049, I don't believe so.

Mauler and Vindicator are on the way, along with whatever PGI hasn't mentioned.

[Hellcat420]

no, because time travel has not been invented in the battletech universe.

[SirLANsalot]

IS omni mechs are the worst mechs in all of BT.

They have the same restrictions that the Clans ones have, but have the worst tech for it.

Many have XL eng, that is fine but still lose a ST and your dead. Many IS weapons are very heavy and quite crit intensive vs Clan counterparts. IS Endo/Ferro also take up much much more space and, as per omni rules, cannot be changed.

So for the IS its a Lose/Lose for Omni Tech.

[CycKath]

Too soon. Even ignoring the timeline, Clans have only been out for a little while, let them keep the OmniMech angle a little longer.

Be interesting to see what people think about IS OmniMechs with locked equipment, especially as some of the 1st Gen IS Omnis have even worse locked equipment choices than the Clans.

[Quizzical Coconut]

Andi Nagasia, on 25 July 2014 - 02:46 PM, said:

i believe this is the Advantage InnerSphere needs to combat the Clans,
as well as increase use for InnerSphere lights.

You think a 25 ton mech with a hardlocked 175 and no jj/ecm is the advantage the IS needs?

Edited by Quizzical Coconut, 25 July 2014 - 03:31 PM.

[Lefty Lucy]

Being a relatively slow 25-tonner with fixed equipment, the raptor would be DoA.

[Hagoromo Gitsune]

Andi Nagasia, on 25 July 2014 - 02:46 PM, said:

will the Raptor- 25T Inner Sphere OmniMech,
be the first InnerSphere OmniMech? as well as their first Light OmniMech?

i believe this is the Advantage InnerSphere needs to combat the Clans,
as well as increase use for InnerSphere lights,

Raptor
-Production Information-
Manufacturer- Luthien Armor Works- OmniMech Production Facility
Production Year- 3052
Model- RTX1-O
Class- Light
Cost- 3,917,448 C-bills

-Technical Specifications-
Mass- 25 tons
Chassis- Endo-Steel
Armor- Star Slab/4
Engine- Omni 175 XL
Heat Sink- 10 Double heat sinks
Speed- 118.8 km/h

-Armament-
Primary Configuration
3x LRM-5s
2x Machine Guns
2x Medium Lasers
2x Small Lasers

Should this be the next IS Mech to see MWO?

Edit- i understand the time line was rolled back to 3049,
but still your thoughts on if it should be upand comming,

We need Pillager and not this cheap crap. Plos, Pillager 1N and 3Z fits the 3049 timescale

Edited by Hagoromo Gitsune, 25 July 2014 - 03:40 PM.

[Mcgral18]

Lefty Lucy, on 25 July 2014 - 03:31 PM, said:

Being a relatively slow 25-tonner with fixed equipment, the raptor would be DoA.

Missing 2 tons of armour, bringing it down to 9.5 tons of pod space when maxed, without JJs or ECM.

Yep, pretty dead. SRM18 stock is kinda nice, though. For a 25 tonner.

[Quizzical Coconut]

Hagoromo Gitsune, on 25 July 2014 - 03:39 PM, said:

We need Pillager and not this cheap crap. Plos, Pillager 1N and 3Z fits the 3049 timescale

That thing would kick ass.
































































as a 2ppc/2gauss jumpsniper.

It'd still be pretty cool though.

Edited by Quizzical Coconut, 25 July 2014 - 03:47 PM.

[Strum Wealh]

Hagoromo Gitsune, on 25 July 2014 - 03:39 PM, said:

We need Pillager and not this cheap crap. Plos, Pillager 1N and 3Z fits the 3049 timescale

No, it doesn't.

"Production ceased during the Second Succession War with the facilities that supplied the Pillager's advanced systems, but the decoding of the Grey Death memory core allowed the re-introduction of the Pillager to the Inner Sphere."
"When it was re-introduced in 3058, the Pillager enjoyed an advantage over many 'Mechs its own size and weight."
- TRO 3058 Upgrade, pg. 228

"Production of the Pillager halted not because its facility was destroyed, but the advanced Gauss Rifle and XL Engine production lines had been obliterated by the end of the Second Succession War. Curiously, Hildco did not restart production of the original PLG-1N, rather the Pillager lines only began production again in 3058 when advanced components were once again available for the PLG-3Z." - Sarna.net

[FupDup]

SirLANsalot, on 25 July 2014 - 03:21 PM, said:

IS omni mechs are the worst mechs in all of BT.

They have the same restrictions that the Clans ones have, but have the worst tech for it.

Many have XL eng, that is fine but still lose a ST and your dead. Many IS weapons are very heavy and quite crit intensive vs Clan counterparts. IS Endo/Ferro also take up much much more space and, as per omni rules, cannot be changed.

So for the IS its a Lose/Lose for Omni Tech.

The Owens and Strider would be hardlocked with SHS, which easily puts them as the worst mechs in their classes in MWO.

The Avatar is somewhat better off, but it has hardwired CASE in each side torso, which does absolutely nothing for it because it has an XL engine. Wasted 1 ton and 2 slots.

Edited by FupDup, 25 July 2014 - 05:04 PM.

[Sam Hall]

SirLANsalot, on 25 July 2014 - 03:21 PM, said:

IS omni mechs are the worst mechs in all of BT.

the Hauptmann would like a word with you sir

[Bishop Steiner]

Andi Nagasia, on 25 July 2014 - 02:46 PM, said:

will the Raptor- 25T Inner Sphere OmniMech,
be the first InnerSphere OmniMech? as well as their first Light OmniMech?

i believe this is the Advantage InnerSphere needs to combat the Clans,
as well as increase use for InnerSphere lights,

Raptor
-Production Information-
Manufacturer- Luthien Armor Works- OmniMech Production Facility
Production Year- 3052
Model- RTX1-O
Class- Light
Cost- 3,917,448 C-bills

-Technical Specifications-
Mass- 25 tons
Chassis- Endo-Steel
Armor- Star Slab/4
Engine- Omni 175 XL
Heat Sink- 10 Double heat sinks
Speed- 118.8 km/h

-Armament-
Primary Configuration
3x LRM-5s
2x Machine Guns
2x Medium Lasers
2x Small Lasers

Should this be the next IS Mech to see MWO?

Edit- i understand the time line was rolled back to 3049,
but still your thoughts on if it should be upand comming,

so to combat the Clans, the IS needs Lights with locked, slower engines, too?

Sam Hall, on 25 July 2014 - 07:39 PM, said:

the Hauptmann would like a word with you sir

Not sure whats worse about the Hauptman, the name or the silly robo-cigar.

About the only really good IS Omnis are the BJ-O, Sunder and Templar, until you get to the jihad.

[Lefty Lucy]

Bishop Steiner, on 25 July 2014 - 07:43 PM, said:

Not sure whats worse about the Hauptman, the name or the silly robo-cigar.

About the only really good IS Omnis are the BJ-O, Sunder and Templar, until you get to the jihad.

And even then, the way MWO handles Omnis would totally gimp those mechs.

Sam Hall, on 25 July 2014 - 07:39 PM, said:

the Hauptmann would like a word with you sir

Wouldn't be very good in MWO, I'm afraid.

[MonkeyCheese]

Id drive it

But I drive stupid things like AC20 ravens and 2ERPPC ravens and AC5 spiders so I dont think I would have a problem with this mech.

Edited by MonkeyCheese, 25 July 2014 - 09:35 PM.

[Hans Von Lohman]

New Clan Mechs most likely will be from the other 8 Omnimechs from the 3050 Tech Readout book.

As for Inner Sphere Omni-mechs they're a long ways off. Also, I seem to recall the first IS Omni-mech was a 50 ton BlackJack?

[Quicksilver Aberration]

I know it is a Capellan mech, but why does everyone forget the Men Shen, one of the cheesier mechs in the TT? Then there is the Black Hawk-KU, but that isn't as nasty as the Men Shen, despite the serious amount of cheesy IS Medium Lasers the prime config boasts.

Note: The Avatar was supposedly the first Omnimech to start R&D, but the Raptor was the first to see production in 3052.

Edited by majora incarnate, 26 July 2014 - 12:31 AM.

[Nothing Whatsoever]

I was looking at lights recently also; doubtful to see this one anytime soon.

I'm leaning towards the Urbanmech, and/or Mongoose at this point, for the next light IS chassis; if we don't see the Flea in the future.

Edited by Praetor Knight, 26 July 2014 - 12:51 AM.