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[Gremlich Johns]

Most gamers do not realize that as a minimum, 30FPS is perfectly fine to play any game at. Don't buy into the hype and you'll be happy.

[DEMAX51]

Jackplays17, on 30 July 2014 - 04:41 PM, said:

*edit* was in a game with my hunchback, which has extremely light armor and 2 lrm 20's. thats it. oh yea, and an engine and 2 heat sinks and ammo. is this viable? i always get large amounts of damage and kill assists.

If you're looking for a build critique, it's always easier to link people the build using the Smurfy Mechlab, or taking a screenshot of your "mech details" screen like this...



That way people can get a better idea of what exactly you're running.

[Satan n stuff]

Gremlich Johns, on 30 July 2014 - 06:20 PM, said:

Most gamers do not realize that as a minimum, 30FPS is perfectly fine to play any game at. Don't buy into the hype and you'll be happy.

It's not *just* hype, 30fps looks somewhat choppy to me, but a lot of people don't notice or mind it.
Also note that in this game 30fps will likely turn into 10-20fps if you happen to be looking in the general direction of a large blob of mechs, regardless of whether or not you can actually see them. Needless to say, this is a big problem when those mechs happen to be pointing their guns at you.

[DEMAX51]

Gremlich Johns, on 30 July 2014 - 06:20 PM, said:

Most gamers do not realize that as a minimum, 30FPS is perfectly fine to play any game at. Don't buy into the hype and you'll be happy.

30 FPS is just fine for single-player games, but in a competitive PVP environment -- especially in FPS games -- the higher your FPS the better until you reach the point at which there's no discernible difference (which is different for each person - some may not actually notice a difference between 30 and 60 FPS, some can actually tell the difference between 60 and up).

[Satan n stuff]

DEMAX51, on 31 July 2014 - 10:57 AM, said:

30 FPS is just fine for single-player games, but in a competitive PVP environment -- especially in FPS games -- the higher your FPS the better until you reach the point at which there's no discernible difference (which is different for each person - some may not actually notice a difference between 30 and 60 FPS, some can actually tell the difference between 60 and up).

100fps is generally where people are incapable of noticing the difference, but that applies to graphics only, control lag can actually be noticed if it's more than a few milliseconds. Given enough practice, players can actually time their input that accurately. Systems that allow real time control are kind of a big deal because of that.

Fun fact: if your teeth and jaws were strong enough to survive the impact and you were given an accurate countdown, you actually could catch a bullet with your teeth.

[Kazma]

AMD FX Cores often run bad with MWO. I recently switched to an Intel Xeon and had immediatly 100% more frames overall.

[Satan n stuff]

Kazma, on 31 July 2014 - 11:25 AM, said:

AMD FX Cores often run bad with MWO. I recently switched to an Intel Xeon and had immediatly 100% more frames overall.

AMD CPUs generally don't perform as well as their specs would lead you to believe, but they tend to have higher listed specs than similarly priced Intel CPUs, so you do usually get what you pay for. As for them not working well with this game, I have no experience with that so I'll take your word for it. I've only ever played this game with an Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz.

Edited by Satan n stuff, 31 July 2014 - 11:38 AM.

[Koniks]

Satan n stuff, on 31 July 2014 - 11:38 AM, said:

AMD CPUs generally don't perform as well as their specs would lead you to believe, but they tend to have higher listed specs than similarly priced Intel CPUs, so you do usually get what you pay for. As for them not working well with this game, I have no experience with that so I'll take your word for it. I've only ever played this game with an Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz.

AMD CPUs have a problem handling CryEngine. There are some threads about it in the Workaround section.

Edited by Mizeur, 31 July 2014 - 02:47 PM.

[Jackplays17]

Satan n stuff, on 31 July 2014 - 11:15 AM, said:

100fps is generally where people are incapable of noticing the difference, but that applies to graphics only, control lag can actually be noticed if it's more than a few milliseconds. Given enough practice, players can actually time their input that accurately. Systems that allow real time control are kind of a big deal because of that.

Fun fact: if your teeth and jaws were strong enough to survive the impact and you were given an accurate countdown, you actually could catch a bullet with your teeth.

Actually the human eye cannot detect a dirfference beetween 60, and any amount of frames more, so lets say 1000 for example. theres NO difference whatsoever to the eye. 60 frames is the max the human eye can detect

Satan n stuff, on 31 July 2014 - 10:28 AM, said:

It's not *just* hype, 30fps looks somewhat choppy to me, but a lot of people don't notice or mind it.
Also note that in this game 30fps will likely turn into 10-20fps if you happen to be looking in the general direction of a large blob of mechs, regardless of whether or not you can actually see them. Needless to say, this is a big problem when those mechs happen to be pointing their guns at you.

Agreed. in the mech bay i can get up to 30 frames... when im inside the explosion radius of a missile i get 3-5 FPS. and, 30 FPS is REALLY choppy and close to unplayable for me.

[Jackplays17]

Just got my first kill, was in a spider

[Satan n stuff]

Jackplays17, on 31 July 2014 - 04:05 PM, said:

Actually the human eye cannot detect a dirfference beetween 60, and any amount of frames more, so lets say 1000 for example. theres NO difference whatsoever to the eye. 60 frames is the max the human eye can detect

Yes there is, but at that point it's no longer about animation quality, you're right about that, it's about getting immediate feedback. 100fps is the point where screen lag effectively stops being an issue, it is still noticeable at 60fps and very noticeable at 30fps.

[Cybermech]

looks like you got some good advice in this thread, seen people talk about the 50's as decent cards which they are not. gtx 60's and up always for gaming, tbh shame on nividia and shops for selling those cards as 'gaming' cards. hope your PSU doesn't give much issue with power consumption. your machine in general was cheap and if you didn't put it together then your PSU will be lower then needs be. that CPU is also at the cheaper end of things even for AMD. so upgrading that to a higher AMD might be an option further down the road. AMD cpu's are cheaper and need to be overclocked.

Satan is right about that, its more got to do with the technology needed to play and the equipment involved at those high fps then the 100 fps itself. good monitor is needed, if you got 60hz monitor its max fps is 60 regardless of what your comp is putting out.

[Jackplays17]

just got the card and installed it cnt wait to try it out! will tell u guys how it worx

[Jackplays17]

100 frames in-game!!!! GEE GEE! 5 times more than the 620

[Jackplays17]

just got 3 kills in a game with a spider.... the trial spider...