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[Jim thorne]

not sure but im seeing a lot more dragons in game now. Is anyone else seeing this? and if they are why?

[Alexandrix]

is the dragon one of the trial mechs right now? could be that.

[FupDup]

Alexandrix, on 24 July 2014 - 09:30 AM, said:

is the dragon one of the trial mechs right now? could be that.

There's been a trial Dragon for quite some time now, and I rarely ever see that one (most trial heavies use the Cataphract).

Was there a sale on Dragon variants/heroes recently? I'm too lazy to dig through the sales announcements to find out.

[Corbenik]

Thought Drags were medium?

[Alexandrix]

Corbenik, on 24 July 2014 - 09:38 AM, said:

Thought Drags were medium?

The dragon is basically the cicada of the heavy class.
Where the cicada is a light pretending to be a medium,the dragon is a medium pretending to be a heavy

but it is technically a heavy weighing in at 60 tons.

[DONTOR]

Maybe your ELO dropped. JK lol, but maybe.. who knows. Personally I love my Flame its a great mech, also yes it was on sale recently.

[Odins Fist]

Haven't seen a Dragon in AGES..

[xengk]

Have been seeing one in about once every 4 or 5 match.

Edited by xengk, 27 July 2014 - 09:25 AM.

[Alistair Winter]

Dragons are certainly more popular in the underhive these days. No idea why. People who don't want to spend money on Clans running out of new mechs to buy?

[Heeden]

Alistair Winter, on 24 July 2014 - 09:54 AM, said:

Dragons are certainly more popular in the underhive these days. No idea why. People who don't want to spend money on Clans running out of new mechs to buy?

The underhive allows non-FotM mechs and builds to find a niche. Running around in a fast striker be very effective if your opponents don't have voice-coms to deal with you, most of the time either too many mechs turn to chase you so your team can roll 'em, or not enough and you get a couple of easy kills.

Of course, it being the underhive, you also frequently get times where lots of the enemy turn to attack you but your team stay behind rocks playing Yu-Gi-Oh or whatever assaults and heavies do when they don't want to fight. PuG life yo.

[Nothing Whatsoever]

I like seeing Dragons out and about.

If chassis had different armor profiles, Dragons might be more common then they currently are, if fewer mechs would be able to carry up to 12.5 tons of armor (400 points of armor).

It would be no different to how different variants have different hardpoint setups or engine caps, like with the stock Cataphracts; imagine if the 1X and 3D were limited to a max of 352, while the 2X would max at 416, with the 4X would get to mount up the weight class cap of 434?

I'd guess that the 2X and 4x would be more common, and the 2X could receive a balancing tweak allowing a higher armor cap in exchange for a lower engine cap. (The Ilya might also see a lower engine cap, getting similiar treatment as the 2X/4X with a higher armor cap).

Then applying the same to the rest of the mechs and we might see some interesting changes in fielded mechs.

[beerandasmoke]

After the last AC2 nerf i shelved mine. Been thinking about taking it out for a spin again though. Have to look up some different builds besides the 3xAC2, 2xML that made that thing a beast.

[Ph30nix]

Dragons are a really underrated mech. 2 of my dragons are in my top 5 of KDR, if i look at IS only they are in top 3.

They aren't a perfect chasi of course but there are a few builds with them that are INSANELY effective.

Sadly the chasi just takes a different approach then most of the playerbase are able to use.

[Ph30nix]

beerandasmoke, on 24 July 2014 - 10:39 AM, said:

After the last AC2 nerf i shelved mine. Been thinking about taking it out for a spin again though. Have to look up some different builds besides the 3xAC2, 2xML that made that thing a beast.

Steal the Champ version build. Its pretty nuts.
or if you like large pulse
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...60a4a28ebca9d2b

You can fit an AC10 instead of UAC5 its just a personal preference thing.

remove some heatsinks if you need more ammo, and you can put ferro in as well this build already has max armor as well.

Edited by Ph30nix, 24 July 2014 - 10:45 AM.

[Khobai]

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If chassis had different armor profiles, Dragons might be more common then they currently are, if fewer mechs would be able to carry up to 12.5 tons of armor (400 points of armor).

Agreed. Max armor should be limited by the base armor on the stock chassis. Not only would that help the Dragon but it would also help the Awesome. Because the Awesome would get max armor while the Victor would get less than max armor.

[Fang01]

I still drop in my Flame quite often

[Mister Blastman]

With snipers far less frequent, I expect to see more Dragons. They were one of the premier brawling classes before sniping took over.

[Mcgral18]

Mister Blastman, on 24 July 2014 - 10:46 AM, said:

With snipers far less frequent, I expect to see more Dragons. They were one of the premier brawling classes before sniping took over.

But can it outbrawl the SHD?

Both have good hitboxes for XLs, but the SHD has better hitboxes period. More hardpoints, more SRM tubes, same ballistic options, but nearly every SHD can mount an AC20.

JJs as well. I can't see dragons taking off. Not with superior chassis' in the game.

[Cow And Chicken]

Might be because they were on a 50% sale few weeks back.

I never saw a dragon before that, that I remember.
But after the sale I am seeing them every now and then.

C&C out.

[Bilbo]

Mcgral18, on 24 July 2014 - 10:57 AM, said:

But can it outbrawl the SHD?

Both have good hitboxes for XLs, but the SHD has better hitboxes period. More hardpoints, more SRM tubes, same ballistic options, but nearly every SHD can mount an AC20.

JJs as well. I can't see dragons taking off. Not with superior chassis' in the game.

It's not competing with SHD. It's competing with Cataphracts. Either way, I guess it loses.