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[Blackhawk ge]

Hi all,

I wonder how the calculation works for the tournaments. The basic formular is clear:

Kill * 20 + Assist * 10 + (Damage Done - Team Damage)/15 + Win * 20 + Loss * 5

which means e.g.

4 Kills; 5 Assists, + 900 Damage dealt, 0 Team damage (by the way where can I see it?) and game won means:

4*20+ 5*10+ 900/15 + 20 + 0= 210

10 games count ==> 10* 210 point =2100


The question is how could you reach 3000 point like place no. 1 in assault ranking?
This means 10 games by 300 point =
10 kills = 200
1200 dam = 80
win = 20

REALLY?
DO I MISS something?

[Modo44]

The really good pilots often pull 1000+ damage matches when dropping solo. 1500 damage can happen when you have to carry really hard, and since the tournament counts the 10 absolutely best matches...

Edited by Modo44, 17 August 2014 - 12:23 AM.

[bhurisshu]

Modo44, on 17 August 2014 - 12:23 AM, said:

The really good pilots often pull 1000+ damage matches when dropping solo. 1500 damage can happen when you have to carry really hard, and since the tournament counts the 10 absolutely best matches...

Thank you Modo44. (Cannot speak for the OP but) Words cannot express how much you have helped me.

[Blackhawk ge]

Sure this can happen.
8*20+3*10+1500/15+20=290 (and keep in mind without team damage!)
This result in 10 matches in 4 days.
How often did you have 7 kills in a match or even seen someone?

So please don´t get me wrong my post is absolutly not to "accuse" somebody for any abuse, I just want to understand the system.

[Modo44]

3000 points is just 10 matches like that. Take a Dire Whale with a really good setup, be a great pilot, get team mates just bad enough to not steal your kills while also not falling over without any fight, repeat 10 times. Really, you can watch those matches on competitive players' streams.

[John1352]

The competition is broken. I'm a pretty average (or worse than) pilot, but if I abused the brokenness really hard, I could be in the top 5.

Here's how to win the competition in 6 easy steps:

• Pick a mech that you like, and that can put out some good focused damage.
  
• Do everything you can to make your team lose, over and over and over.
  
• After a day of that, your ELO ranking will be really really low. You'll be below newbie ELO, probably fighting against new players who are really terrible.
  
• Load up on modules, consumables, bring the best build you can. Attack everything you see, airstrikes, artillery, attempt to kill all the enemies before your team even gets to the fight. Do this 3-5 times.
  
• Tank your ELO ranking again by losing. Your thrashing of the bad newbies has moved you up to fighting slightly better newbies, and that would make the tournament hard.
  
• Repeat steps 4 and 5 until you're in #1 spot.

Edited by John1352, 17 August 2014 - 02:49 AM.

[Modo44]

Such a big Elo drop and rise would be easy to check for. There are server stats for that. But it is not actually needed when the top players are capable of carrying (and scoring very high despite losses) in the solo queue.

[Heydiddly]

What does it mean by the "damage done - team damage" part? The average of your team? It surely can't be the sum of the rest of your team's damage, because if that was the case pretty much every game, no matter how good, would result in a negative score...

And to the OP, such crazy high scores are definitely possible, won a round 12-0 last night in which ONE guy got all 12 kills... absolute insanity! I then proceeded to lose the next 4 in a row 12-0, yay misguided karma.

[Modo44]

It subtracts friendly fire damage, so that aiming over spamming into crowds is rewarded.

Edited by Modo44, 17 August 2014 - 04:20 AM.

[Heydiddly]

Ohhh, so effectively 0 then, provided you don't play like a tard. That makes sense, cheers.

[No One Lives Forever]

So is there aimbot around or not? I'm pretty sure I've seen one in action recently.

[Modo44]

Nerrixx, on 17 August 2014 - 04:27 AM, said:

So is there aimbot around or not? I'm pretty sure I've seen one in action recently.

Yes. It is called "lower your mouse sensitivity and aim".

[Heydiddly]

Nerrixx, on 17 August 2014 - 04:27 AM, said:

So is there aimbot around or not? I'm pretty sure I've seen one in action recently.

Modo44, on 17 August 2014 - 04:32 AM, said:

Yes. It is called "lower your mouse sensitivity and aim".

This. I can hold a laser on a speeding light at 800m pretty consistently, and I always considered my aim to be pretty bad in shooters before I started playing MWO.

[The Basilisk]

Dont get upset and dont bother trying.
You have to do A {SCRAPLOAD} of training ( several times a weak at least 10 games in a row ), and gaming gear thats running MWO realy well ( low ping does help too ), in addition to a certain mind set ( beeing able to forget how effed up this game is in comparision to what PGI promised those founders who dropped the money to make the travestie that's now going on possible ) to be able to compeat in those turnaments.

So there are realy no aimbots around. Just a huge difference in skill levels. BTW It would be simply more risk than reward. Since this whole game is serverautorative aimbots would requre hacking PGIs servers.

I have to say its pretty frustrating though. Especially if you where hoping this game would finaly be a decent mech combat simulater its quite sickening to see how it develops and wich ppl are promoted and groomed with MC prizes and wich are constantly shunned, ignored and ultimately scoffed at.