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#1 JHackworth

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 03:49 PM

I would really like to see a "tonnage battle value" (TBV) system instead of a class system.

TBV are usually 1 point for every ton. Some mechs get TBV bonuses, some get TBV value penalties. LCTs, for example might be worth 0.75x, giving drop commanders an extra 5 tons.

Clans get a TBV penalty of something like 1.2x; simulating the 2 stars to 3 lances lore system.

Further, a TBV system will let teams dictate their drop deck and allow people to bring more variety to each match.

Currently, we only see a bias towards 'favored' mechs for each weight class--people are going to try to bring the heaviest mediums (SHDs, etc), the heaviest assaults and the heaviest lights to every game.

My thinking is that when matches are being set up drop leaders should be able to choose how wide a tonnage differential to drop against. MM can show the probability of finding a match within a minute. So, maybe the default is to drop against +/- 50 tons, but that can be adjusted with a slider to within +/- 250 TBV or something.

Edited by JHackworth, 06 August 2014 - 10:41 PM.


#2 JHackworth

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 05:36 PM

And, yes, no reason it can't secondarily match against closest ELO bracket. But, TBV first.

#3 Draykin

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 08:34 PM

Well, the thing is, if not given a limit, we all turn into House Steiner and every match will have a tonnage value of around 1200 (That's 100 tons x 12) per team.

#4 JHackworth

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 10:12 PM

PUG games can always be capped to 800 TBV:

#5 DelphiAuriga

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 04:20 AM

I like the idea lots, its a good way to allow balanced team easy. I disagree with the drop leader taking the final decition, but i do agree with all the rest :ph34r: :blink: :)

#6 Ryvucz

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 04:49 AM

I'd prefer it to be more like -

3 Lights 5 Mediums 2 Heavies and 2 Assaults.

#7 Lily from animove

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 05:05 AM

View PostDraykin, on 06 August 2014 - 08:34 PM, said:

Well, the thing is, if not given a limit, we all turn into House Steiner and every match will have a tonnage value of around 1200 (That's 100 tons x 12) per team.


the group queue already is like Heavy + Assaults only. So actually 3/3/3/3 is non exsitent. So Tonnage value would be a better balance at all.

#8 kosmos1214

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 06:17 PM

huh are u for or agenst this???

#9 Wildstreak

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 06:39 PM

View PostRyvucz, on 07 August 2014 - 04:49 AM, said:

I'd prefer it to be more like -

3 Lights 5 Mediums 2 Heavies and 2 Assaults.

I like it because it fits the lore amount by weight class but what can you do when players run what they want and I see this so often.
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