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[Jman5]

Post any Clan vs IS screenshots you have from today's test and we can compare notes.

In an IS mech
Results: 1 win, 5 losses

[Mcgral18]

I've got 7, but two of ours are the same. I guess I'll just remove them.

From those 7, 2 victories and 5 defeats.

Of those defeats, 41 of 60 players failed to reach 200 damage.

Edited by Mcgral18, 06 August 2014 - 04:30 PM.

[Deathlike]

I'll get around to posting mine later. I only did 3 drops. 2 losses (both were IS vs Clan) and 1 win (IS vs IS).

[Ultimax]

Cool thread idea.


One thing I'll say that popped out at me that I hadn't considered before hand, is if you look at the teamlists the IS mech team compositions are all over the map.

Commandos, Quickdraws, 3 Heavy metals (WTF?), Awesomes, the varation is huge with more mechs and more variants available.

On the other hand the Clan teams are extremely streamlined. Very few summoners and Adders (although more than expected) with heavy representation by Novas, Stormcrows, Timberwolves & Direwolves - even if you are XPing one you can run any build you would have on the others, no "bad" variant you have to suffer through.


This doesn't account for the whole story, but it did stand out when I looked at the screenies.

Do the clans have less "bads" to spoil the pot?

Edited by Ultimatum X, 06 August 2014 - 04:24 PM.

[101011]

From my own thread:

101011, on 06 August 2014 - 03:58 PM, said:

So, I was challenged to post screenshots of all my End Of Match screens during the latest bout of Clans Versus IS matchmaking (in a Spheroid chassis, naturally). So, without further ado, here are all of my Clan versus IS matches:

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Here, I made the mistake of not paying enough attention and walking into the enemy team, resulting in my early death and low score.

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Here, I accepted the duel challenge of one of my opposing trothkin, and therefore did not participate in the match. (As a tangent, please please please do not be that guy who interferes with the duel)

All of these matches, I was running my XL Jagermech. I placed a red box around the damage scores sub-200 damage. You will notice a trend, where IS usually has more of these players. My average damage (excluding the duel), however, was 543.8. Now, I do not claim to be a great player, merely average. However, I do believe that it is absurd to call Clan 'Mechs OP. All it takes is to simply think about where the IS is better than the Clans and then exploit that. Anyways, if anyone else has done something similar, feel free to post it here.

Edited by 101011, 06 August 2014 - 04:27 PM.

[Deathlike]

I did whatever I could that match... the problem began immediately with one guy legging a teammate for shooting him. That was the beginning of the end.



Going in the same direction and focus firing was Lostech. Proof exists as is.



You know you've won when you're leading and seeing a bunch of Champion mechs on the other side. ggclose

Edit:
I also figure that if there were Lights on the clan team.. they most likely had ECM on their Kitfoxes. That in itself is futzing up the results.

Edited by Deathlike, 06 August 2014 - 04:32 PM.

[Marvyn Dodgers]

Come on folks, you know enough to blank out the player names to avoid name and shame issues

[Deathlike]

Marvyn Dodgers, on 06 August 2014 - 04:32 PM, said:

Come on folks, you know enough to blank out the player names to avoid name and shame issues

There's noone to shame, but myself. Noone is intentionally trying to call people out. Let the pics speak for themselves.

[Hillslam]

looks like raw data.
name and shame is for questionable behavior

this is pure gameplay and is "public" info shown to those who just played the match.

Let us share data here.

Edited by Hillslam, 06 August 2014 - 04:38 PM.

[Kiiyor]

YOINK

[Bartholomew bartholomew]

Hillslam, on 06 August 2014 - 04:37 PM, said:

looks like raw data.
name and shame is for questionable behavior

this is pure gameplay and is "public" info shown to those who just played the match.

Let us share data here.

It's just good manners.

Would you want your name to show up in a match pic where you got little to no damage because of a rotten luck with a good flank when you know you usually do way better then that?

[Deathlike]

I think ECM is a far greater influence on newbies... because every "competent" Kitfox build HAS ECM and if you don't... well, you'll be shamed on so many levels anyhow. This doesn't even begin to explain how there is no tutorial on learning about ECM and it's impossible to explain it to a newbie in < 60 seconds.

In the two matches with Clan vs IS... I had to "spot" targets with TAG... because the ECM coverage from the Kitfoxes was pretty vast.

Edited by Deathlike, 06 August 2014 - 04:56 PM.

[Bartholomew bartholomew]

Yeah, UAV is becoming important to carry as well.

They need a real good tutorial system. There really is nothing to get anyone new ready before they are swatted so many times they just give up. Without PGI making money off them.

You would think that would be a good enough reason for them to get off of their backsides and do something about it..

Edited by Bartholomew bartholomew, 06 August 2014 - 05:01 PM.

[Deathlike]

Bartholomew bartholomew, on 06 August 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

Yeah, UAV is becoming important to carry as well.

They need a real good tutorial system. There really is nothing to get anyone new ready before they are swatted so many times they just give up. Without PGI making money off them.

You would think that would be a good enough reason for them to get off of their backsides and do something about it..

Tutorials not making them money directly. It's on the backburner after all.

[Jman5]

Got a few more from today

Clan wins: 5, IS: 0

Edited by Jman5, 06 August 2014 - 06:02 PM.