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[Khobai]

Now that PPCs have rightfully been nerfed will the autocannons that were wrongfully nerfed because of their past association with PPCs be unnerfed?

Namely the autocannon 5 which had its projectile speed nerfed for no reason other than to prevent it from being used synergistically with PPCs. That nerf is simply not necessary anymore.

Speaking of unnecessary residual nerfs can we also unnerf IS lasers since mechs like the swayback are no longer a problem plus ghost heat has been implemented?

Edited by Khobai, 10 August 2014 - 06:38 AM.

[Monkey Lover]

Ya buff the speed and make it burst shot for the IS mechs.

[JohnnyWayne]

Khobai, on 10 August 2014 - 06:25 AM, said:

Now that PPCs have wrongfully been nerfed will the autocannons that were rightfully nerfed because of their past association with PPCs be unnerfed?

FTFY.

ACs were nerfed because of their DPS.

Edited by JohnnyWayne, 10 August 2014 - 06:54 AM.

[A banana in the tailpipe]

No thanks I don't want to see quad AC/2 Banshees make a comeback.

[Bishop Steiner]

Nope. Nor should they be.

Too much QQ about pinpoint. In fact if anything, prepare for Paul to nerf them further by introducing burst emchanics to IS ACs soon. Then they will be truly useless, and it will be Missile/GaussWarrior online. And PPCs, even nerfed will become en vogue again, forcing Paul to nerf them more, until soon we achieve the Papercut Warrior Online all the whiners are begging for. And when they realize how lame that is and get bored, they will leave for their Twitchy games, MWO will stay broken, and soon fade away..

GG, Close.

[Coralld]

Monkey Lover, on 10 August 2014 - 06:44 AM, said:

Ya buff the speed and make it burst shot for the IS mechs.

This, so much this. Burst fire IS ACs would solve part of the PP FLD Alpha cheese. Make them fire fewer rounds and have a more noticeably faster base cycle time compared to their Clan counterparts would be the best thing to do.

[Ph30nix]

the only AC that needs unnerfed is the AC/2

[Bishop Steiner]

Coralld, on 10 August 2014 - 08:02 AM, said:

This, so much this. Burst fire IS ACs would solve part of the PP FLD Alpha cheese. Make them fire fewer rounds and have a more noticeably faster base cycle time compared to their Clan counterparts would be the best thing to do.

best for who? Light mech pilots?

[Coralld]

Bishop Steiner, on 10 August 2014 - 08:42 AM, said:

best for who? Light mech pilots?

Actually it would, you your self even mentioned how Clan burst fire ACs are not very good against Lights in another thread.

Here is the quote

Bishop Steiner, on 10 August 2014 - 07:31 AM, said:

if you are trying to say Clan ACs are somehow some magic remedy to Lights, you are very much mistaken. Cln ACs are horrible against Lights because they can't focus damage on them, at all. spreading a bunch of 1-4 pt damage hits all around (and most commonly 1-2.5 dmg) a Light Mech does little to slow it down or bring it down.

From personnel experiences, getting hit by a IS AC40 mech while you are in a Lights is mostly a death sentence. However, against Clan AC40s, I have survived a number of times, and this is while piloting a Locust.
When I am in a Light, I fear Clan Lasers far more then I do their ACs

Edited by Coralld, 10 August 2014 - 08:55 AM.

[Khobai]

Quote

ACs were nerfed because of their DPS.

only the ac5 got a dps decrease. the rest got projectile speed decreases that now make no sense with the ppc nerf in place.

[mogs01gt]

Bishop Steiner, on 10 August 2014 - 07:52 AM, said:

Nope. Nor should they be.

Too much QQ about pinpoint. In fact if anything, prepare for Paul to nerf them further by introducing burst emchanics to IS ACs soon. Then they will be truly useless, and it will be Missile/GaussWarrior online. And PPCs, even nerfed will become en vogue again, forcing Paul to nerf them more, until soon we achieve the Papercut Warrior Online all the whiners are begging for. And when they realize how lame that is and get bored, they will leave for their Twitchy games, MWO will stay broken, and soon fade away..

GG, Close.

The game is already going down the boring road with having nothing but TDM to play.

[WM Wraith]

Monkey Lover, on 10 August 2014 - 06:44 AM, said:

Ya buff the speed and make it burst shot for the IS mechs.

+1 on this. Make the burst mechanic same for Inner Sphere - their ACs are OP compared to clans!!!! I want balance.

[Bishop Steiner]

Coralld, on 10 August 2014 - 08:48 AM, said:

Actually it would, you your self even mentioned how Clan burst fire ACs are not very good against Lights in another thread.

Here is the quote


From personnel experiences, getting hit by a IS AC40 mech while you are in a Lights is mostly a death sentence. However, against Clan AC40s, I have survived a number of times, and this is while piloting a Locust.

exactly my point. They work horrible against Lights, so when you say "bust ACs would be good for the game" what t sounds to me you are saying "They would be good for Light Mech Pilots", because they will be able to do even more things without havin gto worry too much about the consequences.

[Triordinant]

I agree with rolling back the projectile speed nerfs on autocannons because they were done to desync them from PPCs and PPCs have now lost half their projectile speed so it's no longer needed. They should retain the main difference between IS and Clan autocannons which is single slugs for IS ACs and burst fire for for Clan ACs. PGI said they're supposed to be roughly equal but with different strengths and weaknesses (less range for IS, burst fire for Clan).

[TB Freelancer]

Yes lets just mindlessly push for changes simply because something else changed regardless of how it is balanced.

[Satan n stuff]

Triordinant, on 10 August 2014 - 08:59 AM, said:

I agree with rolling back the projectile speed nerfs on autocannons because they were done to desync them from PPCs and PPCs have now lost half their projectile speed so it's no longer needed. They should retain the main difference between IS and Clan autocannons which is single slugs for IS ACs and burst fire for for Clan ACs. PGI said they're supposed to be roughly equal but with different strengths and weaknesses (less range for IS, burst fire for Clan).

That rollback includes changing the AC/20 projectile speed back to 800m/s, which is almost a perfect match for the PPC.

[DarthPeanut]

Going to join the no crowd on this one.

Emphatically NO to the IS burst suggestion. That would be a nerf to IS not a buff and ruin the unique flavor of different sides having different mechanics.

[Coralld]

Bishop Steiner, on 10 August 2014 - 08:55 AM, said:

exactly my point. They work horrible against Lights, so when you say "bust ACs would be good for the game" what t sounds to me you are saying "They would be good for Light Mech Pilots", because they will be able to do even more things without havin gto worry too much about the consequences.

Your making it sound like Lights have little to worry about and few draw backs. Not going to put words in your mouth but that's what it sounds like. Which couldn't be further from the truth.

Edited by Coralld, 10 August 2014 - 09:13 AM.

[Sarlic]

I would rather see a internal structure update.

[Cyborne Elemental]

I would honestly like to see the UAC-5 doing burst fire, the rest though probably not.