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[Jazzbandit1313]

I was thinking about buying this incredibly sexy-lookin' spider. Want some opinions before I splurge on it. Anyone like it? dislike it? Please let me know!

[FDJustin]

There'a thread on here with a big discussion about it... And tangents. If the possible loadouts and playstyles fit you, you'll like it if you like how the spider performs in general.

Otherwise, you can just use it to practice your urban combat. ANANSI

[Spheroid]

The few I see on the battlefield seem to be going the dual AMS route. I would rather see more NARC builds as the Firestarter-S totally has it beat for that setup.

[Felio]

Spheroid, on 15 August 2014 - 07:34 AM, said:

The few I see on the battlefield seem to be going the dual AMS route. I would rather see more NARC builds as the Firestarter-S totally has it beat for that setup.

Behold.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...26c0119ace1c920

[Mechteric]

no ECM.... skip it

[Bishop Steiner]

FDJustin, on 15 August 2014 - 07:27 AM, said:

There'a thread on here with a big discussion about it... And tangents. If the possible loadouts and playstyles fit you, you'll like it if you like how the spider performs in general.

Otherwise, you can just use it to practice your urban combat. ANANSI

Gauss is...somewhat subpar for Urban Defense. Higher DPS, faster ROF and still nice chunks of damage with the AC10. RoF and lack of charge mechanic are pretty useful in Urban combat, for snap shots.

Felio, on 15 August 2014 - 07:43 AM, said:

Behold.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...26c0119ace1c920

them 2 ams gonna go dry real fast like with only 1 ton ammo.

Spheroid, on 15 August 2014 - 07:34 AM, said:

The few I see on the battlefield seem to be going the dual AMS route. I would rather see more NARC builds as the Firestarter-S totally has it beat for that setup.

it is actually really good at the mobile narc battery role..... which would be less praising for faint damns if it wasn't an pay to play mech.

Still, like most heroes, it's not horrible, but it sure ain't an Ember, Ilya, Dragonslayer, etc, either.

[Jazzbandit1313]

I dunno...still on the fence. I love my spiders and I would love to cram an xl270 in it and speed around. I feel like I would get a lot of utility out of the thing. The only problem is I haven't been able to come up with any good builds recently. Howabout a simple yes or no. buy or not buy?

[TercieI]

Unless being a NARCbat appeals to you...do not buy

[Rhaythe]

I made a stock Panther 9R out of it. Though I highly recommend never using that in a PUG. Ever.

[FDJustin]

Jazzbandit1313, on 15 August 2014 - 11:38 AM, said:

I dunno...still on the fence. I love my spiders and I would love to cram an xl270 in it and speed around. I feel like I would get a lot of utility out of the thing. The only problem is I haven't been able to come up with any good builds recently. Howabout a simple yes or no. buy or not buy?

No one can really give you a yes or no answer, though. How about this, if you want it, and the cost isn't high enough for you to lament "losing" the money, then buy it.

Bishop Steiner, on 15 August 2014 - 10:58 AM, said:

Gauss is...somewhat subpar for Urban Defense. Higher DPS, faster ROF and still nice chunks of damage with the AC10. RoF and lack of charge mechanic are pretty useful in Urban combat, for snap shots.

True. But Gauss has high accuracy, great range for the off chance it's needed, and should in theory be able to punch through cover, where AC's would blow up cover. Both features situationally useful.

I'd rather a UAC5 myself, but they're guaranteed to jam with my trigger finger.

[Bishop Steiner]

FDJustin, on 15 August 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

No one can really give you a yes or no answer, though. How about this, if you want it, and the cost isn't high enough for you to lament "losing" the money, then buy it.


True. But Gauss has high accuracy, great range for the off chance it's needed, and should in theory be able to punch through cover, where AC's would blow up cover. Both features situationally useful.

I'd rather a UAC5 myself, but they're guaranteed to jam with my trigger finger.

High accuracy is of limited use, at least this type of accuracy, for urban combat. Tis a reason troops don't deploy with 50 cal sniper rifles for urban combat. Because of the charge mechanism, the accuracy of a Gauss actually suffers horribly in the split second, knife fighting conditions of urban combat.

Essentially, you gotta ask, is it an Urban Fighter, Sniper, or are you trying to make it all purpose? Because if it's for Urban Fighting, you just accept it's limitations for open field combat.

In TT, of course, one could just slap on an LB-X and swap ammo types as needed.... but in MWO, we don't get to do that (sadly). And AC10 is accurate to reasonable range in open combat, but much better suited for CQB.

Course, it's your mech, but I'm just tossing that out there.

[MonkeyCheese]

Stock engine, 2ams 2ml 2mg srm6 has been working fantastic for me. plenty of kills it was like 17kills-7 deaths by the time I speedtweaked it

[Jazzbandit1313]

Terciel1976, on 15 August 2014 - 11:56 AM, said:

Unless being a NARCbat appeals to you...do not buy

Why do you say this though? an srm 6 in the torso is a great took for a spider

[Bigbacon]

Felio, on 15 August 2014 - 07:43 AM, said:

Behold.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...26c0119ace1c920

totally not worth it...support doesn't pay....

Rhaythe, on 15 August 2014 - 12:01 PM, said:

I made a stock Panther 9R out of it. Though I highly recommend never using that in a PUG. Ever.

but you could...just ditch the STD engine and HS or two and get like an XL190-200 on there. least you get 100k out it. drop the JJs are get even more.

or
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e141ec6639c8ccf

Edited by Bigbacon, 15 August 2014 - 02:42 PM.

[TercieI]

Jazzbandit1313, on 15 August 2014 - 02:34 PM, said:

Why do you say this though? an srm 6 in the torso is a great took for a spider

You wanted a yes/no.

From my POV, it's not enough payload and it's all short range. Past 200M all you have is 2ML. <shrug> I'd spend CB maybe, but not MC.

EDIT: I've run this loadout on a RVN-4X. I know pretty much exactly how much firepower it's not. You can do OK with it, but it's just not special. The only time I'm afraid of an Anansi is when I see "NARC," so that's why I say "if you want to NARC, yes, otherwise, no." Again, this is for a real money mech. If it was CB, I'd have grabbed one for sure (and may yet on 50% sale, but I wouldn't pay 'full price')

Edited by Terciel1976, 15 August 2014 - 04:20 PM.