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[MountainCopper]

The game is an LRM-hell. An average of LRM100 every match on both sides. This reduces brawling to the short time you have before being missiled-down to the ground and into the cave below.

Besides that, long range weapons are king. The few times when short range brawling works does not persuade me otherwise.

[Tis a flesh wound]

GoldenFleece, on 16 August 2014 - 12:25 AM, said:

The game is an LRM-hell. An average of LRM100 every match on both sides. This reduces brawling to the short time you have before being missiled-down to the ground and into the cave below.

Besides that, long range weapons are king. The few times when short range brawling works does not persuade me otherwise.

This is the main point I was making when speaking about brawling. Back before the boating of all long range weapons even before the pop tarts you would poke on the way in to an all out slugfest

[Koniving]

Tis a flesh wound, on 15 August 2014 - 04:54 PM, said:

But now its not. The only thing that matters now is who has more ecm/lrms, brawlings dead, only role play is tagging stuff for lrms. Non stop moving to cover is boring and lackluster. I'll check back in in another 6 months.

Here ya go.

[Koniving]

Far as brawling... it'd be nice if canon heat values were restored to Inner Sphere Small and Medium lasers, then nonsensical nerfs to Clans would also not be necessary, allowing both sides to be more encouraged to brawl using small and medium class lasers.

Canon values: Small laser 1 heat 3 damage. Small pulse 2 heat 3 damage. Medium laser 3 heat, 5 damage. Medium Pulse 4 heat 6 damage.

MWO values: Small laser 2 heat 3 damage. Small pulse 2.6 heat 3.6 damage. Medium laser 4 heat, 5 damage. Medium Pulse 4.6 heat (was 5) 6 damage.

Bet you'd brawl more with small and medium lasers with those canon heat values.
Especially since right now with MWO's heat values, Clans are getting close identical heat values for superior weapons at their canon values (i.e. ER ML is 5 heat 7 damage. If IS ML is 4 heat, 5 damage with less range, who's gonna win even with longer beam time? But if IS ML is 3 heat, 5 damage that lesser range isn't so bad and bam, you're on much more even terms).

[Tis a flesh wound]

Koniving, on 16 August 2014 - 12:41 AM, said:

Here ya go.

Yea that post is way more constructive than mine but States pretty much my exact feelings.

[Zeusacoatl]

Tis a flesh wound, on 16 August 2014 - 12:39 AM, said:

This is the main point I was making when speaking about brawling. Back before the boating of all long range weapons even before the pop tarts you would poke on the way in to an all out slugfest

If you were truly in when you said you were then you would remember bluewarrior online. When guys like me turned on heat vision and popped you from across the map with our Gauss and AC2s.

Winter put it nicely. You really just need to learn to move into the proper range on the proper mechs. If you really need open land that no one can touch you in to get into brawling range you have a lot to learn. Sure you may have to use cover to get to where you need to go, but it does not take much to do it. I know, I have come face to face with brawlers many times while in my LRM boats, and visa versa.

But seriously, you already felt the need to throw yourself on the ground, kick your feet, and threw an "i am leaving" tantrum because the devs have not made the game specifically for you. So leave, you honestly will not be missed. I have not seen you on the field yet, and with your lack of wanting to get better, even if you stayed, I would not see you come into my ELO bracket.

[Murcheson]

I read your first post - I sympathize, I got tired of getting LRMed in my DWF. So I got a Stalker loaded it with LRMS and LRMed everybody else. Along the way, I noticed how the opposition was able to close and kill me even with lots of LRMS and tags. I observed, learned, and stole/borrow tactics others were using on me. Consequently, my brawling has improved substantially to the point that I alternate between the two with as many kills in brawling as LRMing.

Take home lesson is quit bitching - open your eyes, and learn. If you are failing, it is because you are not adapting. Adapting is what this game is all about. You have to adapt to the maps, the scenarios, to your team mates play style and to whatever else the Devs decide to tinker with. If you are unwilling to adapt, then I think this game is not for you.

Good luck to you and be on your way.

[Grifthin]

LRM's have a rediculous number of counters from AMS, Radar Dep, ECM, Cover, Minimum Range, Lack of Point defence on Boats, Ammo Hungry etc. If you can't find a way to combine some of those to murder the **** out of LRM boats then I don't know. Most maps have avenues where you can move up without getting missiled, and once you are in range you can brawl them down easy peazy. Add to the fact that LRM mechs carry XL engines almost exclusively and it's pretty easy to punch holes in them. IF everyone would just start fitting AMS to their goddamn mechs there wouldn't be any bitching about LRM's because even with only 1 ton of AMS ammo you can easily close the gap while being completely safe from LRM fire.

But go ahead. Don't use Radar Deprivation, Don't use AMS, Don't use cover, Don't protect your ECM mechs - Just carry on complaining.

[Mad Strike]

Tis a flesh wound, on 15 August 2014 - 04:54 PM, said:

But now its not. The only thing that matters now is who has more ecm/lrms, brawlings dead, only role play is tagging stuff for lrms. Non stop moving to cover is boring and lackluster. I'll check back in in another 6 months.

No way brawling is dead ; my stock weapons Boars Head is still kicking.

[Satan n stuff]

AUSwarrior24, on 15 August 2014 - 05:02 PM, said:

I do not understand why people bother making tiny threads like this when they're leaving. It's like a toddler sulking, desperate for attention, because their toy broke.

Because they're not actually leaving, they're just asking for attention. When people actually do leave, they don't start a thread about it, they just leave.

Edited by Satan n stuff, 16 August 2014 - 01:55 AM.

[Kilo 40]

Satan n stuff, on 16 August 2014 - 01:55 AM, said:

Because they're not actually leaving, they're just asking for attention. When people actually do leave, they don't start a thread about it, they just leave.

no wai. he means it FOR REALZ!

[Tis a flesh wound]

Zuesacoatl, on 16 August 2014 - 01:06 AM, said:

If you were truly in when you said you were then you would remember bluewarrior online. When guys like me turned on heat vision and popped you from across the map with our Gauss and AC2s.

Winter put it nicely. You really just need to learn to move into the proper range on the proper mechs. If you really need open land that no one can touch you in to get into brawling range you have a lot to learn. Sure you may have to use cover to get to where you need to go, but it does not take much to do it. I know, I have come face to face with brawlers many times while in my LRM boats, and visa versa.

But seriously, you already felt the need to throw yourself on the ground, kick your feet, and threw an "i am leaving" tantrum because the devs have not made the game specifically for you. So leave, you honestly will not be missed. I have not seen you on the field yet, and with your lack of wanting to get better, even if you stayed, I would not see you come into my ELO bracket.

omg it's an mwo king dingaling. I'll private match you anytime and let you pick my mech. You aren't as elite as you think

Also never said I was quitting. Just said I would be checking back in around 6 months. I'm sure I'll be tired of destiny by then

[Satan n stuff]

Tis a flesh wound, on 16 August 2014 - 02:30 AM, said:

Also never said I was quitting. Just said I would be checking back in around 6 months. I'm sure I'll be tired of destiny by then

Right... You're still here aren't you?

[Budor]

I think the game is quite fun atm., the abysmal server performance aside.

[Zeusacoatl]

Tis a flesh wound, on 16 August 2014 - 02:30 AM, said:

omg it's an mwo king dingaling. I'll private match you anytime and let you pick my mech. You aren't as elite as you think

Also never said I was quitting. Just said I would be checking back in around 6 months. I'm sure I'll be tired of destiny by then

Not claiming Uber, just stating a fact that if u were in alpha or closed beta than long range boating has always been in. As for the elo comment. Seeing who you drop with versus the people in my list, it is pretty safe to say I won't see you, not to mention that are whining because you can not close with a boater also states the level of play you are at. I am not the best, far from it. The difference between you and me that can give me the ability to be a higher elo is that i can have and will adapt to changes made in this game. If I wish to brawl, I will find my way onto a brawl, if I wish to lurm, than I pray my team has my back while I pick off the cowardly brawlers who are hiding and cowering behind a rock.

Pro tip, if you are getting hit by lurms even if you are behind a building, the cover is not good enough, or the lurmer is skilled and moves to get past said cover. It does not take much for a good lurmer to move around when his opponents can't stop wetting themselves behind a wall unmoving lol

[Egomane]

Goodby threads have a special place on the MWO forums.

[MarineTech]

Speak for yourself

I'm having

[DeathlyEyes]

Tis a flesh wound, on 15 August 2014 - 04:54 PM, said:

But now its not. The only thing that matters now is who has more ecm/lrms, brawlings dead, only role play is tagging stuff for lrms. Non stop moving to cover is boring and lackluster. I'll check back in in another 6 months.