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[MungFuSensei]

Every mech can take AMS, 1t ammo, both AMS modules, and Radar Deprivation. To not do so is a betrayal to Papa Stalker, and your fellow Comrades of the Proletariat! Do your part! Do your duty to Papa Stalker!

Edited by MungFuSensei, 23 August 2014 - 06:22 AM.

[Viges]

But I drive x-5 *sad face*

[MungFuSensei]

Viges, on 23 August 2014 - 06:34 AM, said:

But I drive x-5 *sad face*

Capitalist Viges is a detriment to his team!

[Reitrix]

With the 50+ LRM salvos currently being lobbed from as much as 6 'Mechs at a time, no your AMS is going to run out of ammo, then you're going to be free lunch.

an AMS can barely taken down an LRM10.

[Jin Ma]

papa's stalker's only advice for LRMs would be "use it"

[Monkey Lover]

More ams means I just bring more lrms

[Henree]

people must really fear the A1 Catapult!
it's quite pathetic really

[Reitrix]

Henri Schoots, on 23 August 2014 - 07:02 AM, said:

people must really fear the A1 Catapult!
it's quite pathetic really

I would fear the A1, if i wasn't able to remove all of its weapons with 2 shots from my DWF.

[Bromineberry]

AMS...lol, that was a good one!

[MungFuSensei]

Reitrix, on 23 August 2014 - 06:53 AM, said:

With the 50+ LRM salvos currently being lobbed from as much as 6 'Mechs at a time, no your AMS is going to run out of ammo, then you're going to be free lunch.

an AMS can barely taken down an LRM10.

Bromineberry, on 23 August 2014 - 07:22 AM, said:

AMS...lol, that was a good one!

No one takes AMS.

Everyone complains about LRMs.

Cognitive Dissonance is strong amongst the Proletariat.

[Sergey Kosinskiy]

Reitrix, on 23 August 2014 - 06:53 AM, said:

With the 50+ LRM salvos currently being lobbed from as much as 6 'Mechs at a time, no your AMS is going to run out of ammo, then you're going to be free lunch.

an AMS can barely taken down an LRM10.

Soo half of enemy team cant fight under 180m?

[Reitrix]

MungFuSensei, on 23 August 2014 - 07:25 AM, said:

No one takes AMS.

Everyone complains about LRMs.

Cognitive Dissonance is strong amongst the Proletariat.

Please excuse me while my triple AMS + ECM + 4 tons AMS ammo is shredded by salvos of up to 50 - 75 missiles. Yup, awesome, stopped maybe 30 missiles. Maaaaaaybe, But oh **** here comes a second wave! Cool back to cover.
Wait, why is my AMS still firing? Oh right, its trying to shoot through the wall at LRMs that are now harmless. Now I've lost 1.5 tons of ammo and didnt even prevent myself getting hit.

Does not matter how much AMS your team has, you *cannot* stop or even put a dent in the number of LRMs currently flying at targets. my KFX runs out of ammo in the first 2 minutes of a game every single time. But the LRM boats just keep on firing.

[Reitrix]

Sergey kosinskiy, on 23 August 2014 - 07:30 AM, said:

Soo half of enemy team cant fight under 180m?

The only LRM boat in the game unable to equip backup weapons is the A1, and even thats questionable, as i can take 3 LRM10s and 3 SRM4s.
my Timber Wolf has 4x CLRM10 +4CERMLs +3MGs. Atlas boats even carry AC20s and Medium Lasers.

You would also have to push through 6 direct fire 'mechs to get to them. While taking LRM pummelings.

Do you even know what you're on about?

[Khobai]

ams should not stop all lrms, otherwise thered be no point to even using lrms.

lrms need a rate of fire nerf, a damage per missile buff, an impulse nerf, and an indirect fire spread nerf.

ecm also needs a major nerf and should not give aoe stealth but only stealth the mech its equipped on.

[MungFuSensei]

Reitrix, on 23 August 2014 - 07:30 AM, said:

Please excuse me while my triple AMS + ECM + 4 tons AMS ammo is shredded by salvos of up to 50 - 75 missiles. Yup, awesome, stopped maybe 30 missiles. Maaaaaaybe, But oh **** here comes a second wave! Cool back to cover.
Wait, why is my AMS still firing? Oh right, its trying to shoot through the wall at LRMs that are now harmless. Now I've lost 1.5 tons of ammo and didnt even prevent myself getting hit.

Does not matter how much AMS your team has, you *cannot* stop or even put a dent in the number of LRMs currently flying at targets. my KFX runs out of ammo in the first 2 minutes of a game every single time. But the LRM boats just keep on firing.

You're exaggerating, and you know it. If you have ECM, the amount of time that your AMS is firing is significantly reduced. I use 2 AMS with 2t ammo and both AMS modules on my Summoner, and I have NEVER run out of ammo. That's 1t per AMS, and you're running 1.33t per AMS. I'm sorry, but you're wrong.

[Superslicks]

Multiple Mechs carrying Aims would not bother my Mighty Stalkers
Also lasers are more annoying than Lrm, but nobody really moans.

Edited by Superslicks, 23 August 2014 - 07:40 AM.

[Sergey Kosinskiy]

Reitrix, on 23 August 2014 - 07:35 AM, said:

Atlas boats even carry AC20s and Medium Lasers.

Ok tell me more. Lrm-boat(BOAT) atlas with ac20 and medium lasers?

[Reitrix]

MungFuSensei, on 23 August 2014 - 07:37 AM, said:

You're exaggerating, and you know it. If you have ECM, the amount of time that your AMS is firing is significantly reduced. I use 2 AMS with 2t ammo and both AMS modules on my Summoner, and I have NEVER run out of ammo. That's 1t per AMS, and you're running 1.33t per AMS. I'm sorry, but you're wrong.

Sure, until someone comes along with a TAG and suddenly your ECM is doing nothing to stop the hundreds of missiles coming at you.
Even had a match on Therma earlier where my Raven was exposed for 2 seconds to get a NARC on a Trenchbucket, i was cored from LRMs before i'd made it 2 steps back to cover.

I've seen 'Mechs die via LRMs, and the LRMs continue to slam on down into the corpse for up to 7 seconds afterwards.

Khobai has the right of it, the LRMs of all sizes need a much longer refire rate and a significant spread nerf on indirect fire.

Sergey kosinskiy, on 23 August 2014 - 07:41 AM, said:

Ok tell me more. Lrm-boat(BOAT) atlas with ac20 and medium lasers?

35 tubes, short refire, 10 tons ammo, ECM, Medium lasers and AC20. And that i knocked up in a few seconds in the lab.

Edited by Reitrix, 23 August 2014 - 07:48 AM.

[Green Mamba]

Ive driven an ECM Mech Last night I did my Part .... ECM still > AMS

[TimePeriod]

I used that Stalker version with twin-AMS. Had to resort to 5 tons of AMS ammo on average just to keep them fed for 7 minutes of gameplay. LRM's are not OP, they are just designed by a chimp mashing buttons.