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#1 RustyBolts

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 02:15 PM

When I signed up for MWO during closed Beta, I thought I was going to get Mech WARRIOR Online. The same MechWarrior I played in TT, Mechwarrior, Mechwarrior 2, BattleMech, Mechwarrior 3 and MechWarrior 4. Instead of Mech WARRIOR Online, what we have is Cry babies screaming NERF THIS, NERF THAT. CLANS ARE OP. NERF CLANS NOW Etc....

So, I propose we change the name. How about

Nerf Clans Online. NCO. Nah, that would be degrading to the Non Commisioned Officer ranks.

We Always Cry Online. WACO. Now this one I like.

Or if we want to keep the MWO format, we can go with

Mega Whiners Online or Massive Wussies Online

How about we buff some **** for once, like true warriors.

We keep nerfing crap and maybe we can have some Marshmellow Weapons Online (hey another MWO format) by the time Community Warfare starts.

#2 Destructicus

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 02:33 PM

X is hard, nerf it
X killed me, nerf it
I don't like X, nerf it
I use Y, it takes skill l2p
My point is this community excels at complaining.

Edited by Destructicus, 04 September 2014 - 02:35 PM.


#3 Carrie Harder

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 02:35 PM

I got killed by a Small Pulse Laser once, I hereby declare that it's overpowered and that it must be nerfed at once!




...




Oh wait, that's already going to happen on Friday. I had a sad. :(

#4 Bartholomew bartholomew

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 02:38 PM

Someone was keeping track of all the nerfs and made a thread showing what was left afterwards.
Answer was nothing.

Everybody wanted basically about everything nerfed..
Scruffy nerfherders!

#5 Clit Beastwood

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 02:47 PM

View PostRustyBolts, on 04 September 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

When I signed up for MWO during closed Beta, I thought I was going to get Mech WARRIOR Online. The same MechWarrior I played in TT, Mechwarrior, Mechwarrior 2, BattleMech, Mechwarrior 3 and MechWarrior 4. Instead of Mech WARRIOR Online, what we have is Cry babies screaming NERF THIS, NERF THAT. CLANS ARE OP. NERF CLANS NOW Etc....

So, I propose we change the name. How about

Nerf Clans Online. NCO. Nah, that would be degrading to the Non Commisioned Officer ranks.

We Always Cry Online. WACO. Now this one I like.

Or if we want to keep the MWO format, we can go with

Mega Whiners Online or Massive Wussies Online

How about we buff some **** for once, like true warriors.

We keep nerfing crap and maybe we can have some Marshmellow Weapons Online (hey another MWO format) by the time Community Warfare starts.



this all started with "participation" trophies in youth sports programs.

#6 wanderer

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 02:50 PM

Nerf Clans started very simply.

The second PGI decided that a Clan 'Mech would be no better than an IS one, and declined to balance by tiering or numbers instead of the simplest, lowest common denominator.

Behold the results.

#7 Alistair Winter

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 02:51 PM

This is a very constructive thread that will lead to a lot of positive things.

#8 RustyBolts

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 02:58 PM

View PostFierostetz, on 04 September 2014 - 02:47 PM, said:



this all started with "participation" trophies in youth sports programs.


I agree completly. When everyone is a winner all you are left with is whiners,

View PostAlistair Winter, on 04 September 2014 - 02:51 PM, said:

This is a very constructive thread that will lead to a lot of positive things.



I thought I was being constructive. I gave options for a name change to better reflect the community and I said we should buff for a change instead of nerf. :P

#9 FDJustin

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 02:59 PM

View PostCarrie Harder, on 04 September 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:

I got killed by a Small Pulse Laser once, I hereby declare that it's overpowered and that it must be nerfed at once!




...




Oh wait, that's already going to happen on Friday. I had a sad. :(

Was it me? Because... I don't think anyone else uses them.

#10 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 03:00 PM

View Postwanderer, on 04 September 2014 - 02:50 PM, said:

Nerf Clans started very simply.

The second PGI decided that a Clan 'Mech would be no better than an IS one, and declined to balance by tiering or numbers instead of the simplest, lowest common denominator.

Behold the results.

No, it started when People made an outcry on the forums. It started when evertime someone got killed by a clan mechs they were OP. It started when PGI actually listened to anyone of them and they got their way and continue to yell clans are op

#11 CMDR Sunset Shimmer

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 03:15 PM

We need to start reverting IS nerfs, instead of Nerfing clantech first.

#12 Dracol

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 03:18 PM

View PostRustyBolts, on 04 September 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

When I signed up for MWO during closed Beta, I thought I was going to get Mech WARRIOR Online. The same MechWarrior I played in TT, Mechwarrior, Mechwarrior 2, BattleMech, Mechwarrior 3 and MechWarrior 4. Instead of Mech WARRIOR Online, what we have is Cry babies screaming NERF THIS, NERF THAT. CLANS ARE OP. NERF CLANS NOW Etc....

-snip-
How about we buff some **** for once, like true warriors.

We keep nerfing crap and maybe we can have some Marshmellow Weapons Online (hey another MWO format) by the time Community Warfare starts.

View PostFierostetz, on 04 September 2014 - 02:47 PM, said:



this all started with "participation" trophies in youth sports programs.

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 04 September 2014 - 03:00 PM, said:

No, it started when People made an outcry on the forums. It started when evertime someone got killed by a clan mechs they were OP. It started when PGI actually listened to anyone of them and they got their way and continue to yell clans are op


I'd say it all started when Mechwarrior went to Mechwarrior Online. When the focus of the game was on Single Player, no one cared enough about balance cause you're only fighting drones.

Once Mechwarrior Online came into being, it became a high priority to make sure there was a fair balance among different play styles. The old days of only having one effective play style in the multi-player aspect of a game are long gone... along with single player campaigns.

#13 Kassatsu

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 03:21 PM

View PostFlash Frame, on 04 September 2014 - 03:15 PM, said:

We need to start reverting IS nerfs, instead of Nerfing clantech first.


If only that suggestion made no sense.

PGI might actually do it.

#14 wanderer

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 03:21 PM

You do realize that Clans were a bait-and-switch, right?

1) "Test" Clan 'Mechs in superior stat mode.
2) Await mass buying.
3) Wait for wave to die down, keep promise of making Clan = IS.
4) Resume selling "normalized" 'Mechs of both types to feed pig.

Clantech will continue to be butchered, just as planned- especially since some parts of Clantech actually have to be OVERnerfed to compensate for the parts they can't, like half-space endosteel or Clan XLs. In an ideal PGI world, a Stormcrow will just be another 55-tonner.

And since this is Paul doing the balancing, expect "balance" to equal "cripple". This started before a single Clan 'Mech got on Test, the moment Paul and company stated the Clan 'Mech would be "balanced" to match IS ones. Enjoy the results. I've been waiting for the other shoe to drop, and I figure it'll start tomorrow with the laser/LRM nerfs and keep going from there.

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 03:42 PM

IS Small Lasers too strong!

http://youtu.be/4pjLMukOQ7g

#16 Sandpit

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 03:48 PM

View PostBartholomew bartholomew, on 04 September 2014 - 02:38 PM, said:

Someone was keeping track of all the nerfs and made a thread showing what was left afterwards.
Answer was nothing.

Everybody wanted basically about everything nerfed..
Scruffy nerfherders!

actually I made a thread keeping track of all the "remove this" threads. it's become quite the list. It's basically the same thing though

#17 Jolly Llama

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 04:00 PM

Here are my list of nerf requests:

Nerf Chat. I want to turn it off.

Nerf Formum Warriors. Give me a down vote to put nerf threads where they belong.

Nerf Desyncs. Fix the game. I am sick of getting desynced and having to rejoin. BTW, the rejoin option that took two years to develop could be considered a nerf that has already been placed on desyncs.

Nerf Unknown Errors. Fire a developer or two and motivate the rest to fix stupid **** like this.

Nerf UI 2.0. The amount of menus are OP. Reduce how many clicks it takes to get to my engine size. Right now I can just menu away and see all kinds of useless information. This is way OP.

Nerf Paul's Nerf Bat. Make it so that when he swings it at something that is already encased in Nerf, it bounces off an hits him in the mouth...HARD.

#18 Theron Branson

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 04:09 PM

I personally think the clans do NOT need nerfing and should be better then an IS mech but it's up to the Dev to make it realistic for them to do battle against each other. It's like every realistic WW2 game I play, the Germans have the better equipment but the Allies have the numbers. The only thing I do not like is all the LRM and Arty in matches now. I hate LRM (being a brawler myself) and you have complete units with scouts/LRM boats/and Timber Wolves and Dire Wolves. How I miss the old days of pop-tarting.

#19 Mal

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 04:15 PM

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Nothing good can come from this thread.... so, locking it before it gets further into unconstructive territory.





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