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[Johnny Z]

So when the Timber Wolf is out for c-bills, what % of players will be piloting one?

Profile of a medium, speed of a medium, armor of an assault, firepower of an assault.

Even I am getting one. I might not, but it is very likely.

[Torgun]

I won't buy one, because the Nerfinator will be all over it once it's out for CBills and leave it a shell of its' former powerful self. Since it doesn't matter anymore when it's not a big MC income source,

Edited by Torgun, 04 September 2014 - 02:10 PM.

[Scratx]

Obviously, the heavy queue will be stuck at 50+ percent due to the Timber Wolf.

Beyond that, your guess is as good as mine.

[stjobe]

Looking at the queue percentages, roughly 90% (combined total of medium, heavy, and assault queue percentages).

Don't worry though, they will ... "adjust" ... it right on time for the CB release so it's not so powerful.

Not before then, though; the ones that paid real money for them mustn't feel cheated.

Edited by stjobe, 04 September 2014 - 02:11 PM.

[Carrie Harder]

Torgun, on 04 September 2014 - 02:09 PM, said:

I won't buy one, because the Nerfinator will be all over it once it's out for CBills and leave it a shell of its' former powerful self. Since it doesn't matter anymore when it's not a big MC income source,

I'm calling Victor-style agility nerfs. But this time instead of an 80 tonner handling like a 100 tonner, it'll be a 75 tonner handling like a 150 tonner.

[Bilbo]

Johnny Z, on 04 September 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

So when the Timber Wolf is out for c-bills, what % of players will be piloting one?

... armor of an assault...

That's a neat trick. Give me a hint. How do get the armor of an assault onto one?

Edited by Bilbo, 04 September 2014 - 02:16 PM.

[Scratx]

Carrie Harder, on 04 September 2014 - 02:11 PM, said:

I'm calling Victor-style agility nerfs. But this time instead of an 80 tonner handling like a 100 tonner, it'll be a 75 tonner handling like a 150 tonner.

Well, if they give it a quirk to be allowed to fire all 3 gauss rifles at the same time, that's actually not an awful mech to use. That's 27 tons of standard armor, plus a lot more internal structure to chew through.

Kinda sucks in the mobility department, though. 2/3 speed.

[Johnny Z]

I will hazard a guess. After the weeks of complete imbalance making this game look very bad(I use the nicest possible words here, I am also talking to any player that advocated for the clans OP in these forums.), I would say the heavy queue hits 80% + mostly Timber wolves.

[Ultimax]

Johnny Z, on 04 September 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

Profile of a medium, speed of a medium, armor of an assault, firepower of an assault.

1) My Shadowhawk is about as tall as a Dire Wolf. That's a problem with Medium mech scaling.
2) The TBR is actually close to the same overall size as the Cataphract.
3) It has the Armor of a 75 ton mech. Exactly. It can have less, but not more.


I promise you the Shadowhawk and Stormcrow are both more nimble than the Timber Wolf.

Edited by Ultimatum X, 04 September 2014 - 02:17 PM.

[MonkeyCheese]

I shall be killing them in my summoner.

most will be nublets who just want the nostalgia or they want it because of the "OP factor" but wont have any idea how to pilot it well.

Edited by MonkeyCheese, 04 September 2014 - 02:19 PM.

[Johnny Z]

MonkeyCheese, on 04 September 2014 - 02:18 PM, said:

I shall be killing them in my summoner.

most will be nublets who just want the nostalgia or they want it because of the "OP factor" but wont have any idea how to pilot it well.

I am positive that many players wont pilot them any more and will try and pick on the T wolves newbie pilots to dissuade them from continueing as a matter of fact.

[Zyllos]

Johnny Z, on 04 September 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

Profile of a medium, speed of a medium, armor of an assault, firepower of an assault.

Profile of a medium *might* be correct, but "speed of a medium, armor of an assault, and firepower of an assault" is just plain wrong.

The Mad Cat plays by the same rules as all other mechs. It had an oversized engine for a typical 75t mech, so it's fast. It has the same maximum armor points as all other 75t mechs in the game (less armor than an Awesome!!!). And it has the same tonnage available to it as any other 75t mech...

The only reason why it "feels" that way is because it is one of the few Clan mechs with both Endo Steel and Ferro Fibrous along with a good hardpoint layout while being in the top tonnage of it's weight class, especially in a weight class that is heavily favored by meta players.

Edited by Zyllos, 04 September 2014 - 02:28 PM.

[Kassatsu]

Probably a very high percentage until people realize there are only like three 'meta' builds for it, and only one of those is effective in any situation/range.

Also right up until the dire wolf is out. Then you'll see those everywhere and it will be glorious to circle around behind them in a light mech.

[Deathlike]

Johnny Z, on 04 September 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

So when the Timber Wolf is out for c-bills, what % of players will be piloting one?

Profile of a medium, speed of a medium, armor of an assault, firepower of an assault.

Even I am getting one. I might not, but it is very likely.

Assuming no nerfs, then everyone that has a brain and has the C-bills will get them.

Those that won't get them will do that out of principle (for being called a meta-ho) or aren't up to speed with the game...

[Bartholomew bartholomew]

After all the flak they have been giving. I will gladly shelve mine and run about destroying them in a griffin.

What will probably happen when they release for cbills is that the hitboxes will be adjusted to something more like a catapults.

CT mayhem!

[Budor]

99% of the players that can afford one will buy it. Heavy queue will be a no go unless you have a "searching" fetish.

[Zolaz]

If I am PUG dropping I just choose whatever line is the shortest, except for lights. I hate lights in PUG queue.

[zortesh]

Well i say about the same percentage that used to play cataphract 3d's in my drops.

I'm okay with that thou, figthing against timberwolves is invariably fun, there not my natural prey like direwovles are, but they die just the same.

[Carrie Harder]

Kassatsu, on 04 September 2014 - 02:29 PM, said:

...
Also right up until the dire wolf is out. Then you'll see those everywhere and it will be glorious to circle around behind them in a light mech.

The Dire Whale is going to be released for spacebucks sooner than the Gato Loco...

[Kassatsu]

Zolaz, on 04 September 2014 - 02:30 PM, said:

If I am PUG dropping I just choose whatever line is the shortest, except for lights. I hate lights in PUG queue.

Interestingly enough I find that the highest percentage often has the shortest wait times as the matchmaker does not enforce 3/3/3/3 for pug drops and premades tend to run 3/3 assaults/heavies before anything else (maybe a light or two before hitting x/x/3/3). Higher percentage also means you'll get matched up with an opponent of the same weight class faster. "use X for shortest wait times" is often mis-leading due to the broken matchmaker.

Carrie Harder, on 04 September 2014 - 02:34 PM, said:

The Dire Whale is going to be released for spacebucks sooner than the Gato Loco...

Forgot. Warhawk is last (for some reason?) after T-wolf. Oh well.

Edited by Kassatsu, 04 September 2014 - 02:36 PM.