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[Almond Brown]

"No Soup for PGI!" as per Roland...

[Xyroc]

Roland, on 02 September 2014 - 09:18 AM, said:

Why would yesterday being a holiday impact their delivery of a patch today?

Well you nor any of us know what goes on in the day to day there at PGI so kind of a silly question eh?

Edited by Beliall, 02 September 2014 - 10:03 AM.

[Theaus]

I do see the Vindy variants available for MC in the mechlab

[Spheroid]

Who is saying this has always been the case? From the announcements section the September 2013 patch appeared to be on schedule on the Tuesday after Labor Day.

Edited by Spheroid, 02 September 2014 - 10:08 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Theaus, on 02 September 2014 - 10:04 AM, said:

I do see the Vindy variants available for MC in the mechlab

supposed to be CBills

Spheroid, on 02 September 2014 - 10:06 AM, said:

Who is saying this has always been the case? From the announcements section the September 2013 patch appeared to be on schedule on the normal Tuesday after Labor Day.

this year, I believe it was Memorial Day or 4th of July week that is was delayed. I am trying to remember another. Point being made, is hardly the first time, or a big deal.

Maybe the esteemed Mr. Bryan Ekman could clear it up for us? (sir, the floor is yours)

[Bryan Ekman]

We're going to be patching tomorrow. With the data center migration and changes to billing, time was tight for deploying today. Patch incoming tomorrow.

(Read - more testing needed)

[Escobar]

Roland, on 02 September 2014 - 09:55 AM, said:

Of course, in reality, the development cycles are most likely planned more than just two weeks ahead of time (or at least, I would hope so), but the fact remains that such things like national holidays are known ahead of time and do not necessitate pushing a release back a day.

What scares me is the thought of releasing a patch on a Tuesday which included code changes made on Friday, or Monday.

A prior comment used the term 'normal software company'. Technically, any normal software company would be releasing on their Tuesday release schedule things that were done over two weeks past, and having spent the past two weeks being batted about by testers. The fact that Monday was a holiday should only be impacting what could be included in the September 16 patch. But then, did anyone on the player side have any idea of last weeks server move more than a half day in advance? I think its pretty clear how things roll up in Canada. You couldnt pay me enough to deal with that kind of stress, every two weeks.

I also had a laugh over the concept of 'Friday'. In my book, Friday includes everything up to Monday AM My definition has allowed me to meet many a deadline over my career.

[Bishop Steiner]

...but you could have ignored those things to get the patch ready Friday.....

[Joseph Mallan]

Bryan Ekman, on 02 September 2014 - 10:10 AM, said:

We're going to be patching tomorrow. With the data center migration and changes to billing, time was tight for deploying today. Patch incoming tomorrow.

(Read - more testing needed)

Twitter off line today?

[FDJustin]

By the way... If any of you guys know a prophet that can create a schedule which will actually match reality, I'd be happy to use my Canadian citizenship to split a tax free lottery with you.

[Bishop Steiner]

Escobar, on 02 September 2014 - 10:10 AM, said:

I also had a laugh over the concept of 'Friday'. In my book, Friday includes everything up to Monday AM My definition has allowed me to meet many a deadline over my career.

cool...so you volunteering to pay PGI staff overtime to work over a holiday weekend? (Doubletime instead of time and a half, in some places, anyhow)

[Joseph Mallan]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 September 2014 - 10:14 AM, said:

cool...so you volunteering to pay PGI staff overtime to work over a holiday weekend? (Doubletime instead of time and a half, in some places, anyhow)

Hey I got paid that over the weekend! And none of you had to pay me!

[Bishop Steiner]

Joseph Mallan, on 02 September 2014 - 10:16 AM, said:

Hey I got paid that over the weekend! And none of you had to pay me!

Was it in any way Gov'T related....cuz if so, you better believe I paid you!!!

Bryan Ekman, on 02 September 2014 - 10:10 AM, said:

We're going to be patching tomorrow. With the data center migration and changes to billing, time was tight for deploying today. Patch incoming tomorrow.

(Read - more testing needed)

anyhow, all kidding aside..... yes, Priorities.... major tasks and putting out dumpster fires BEFORE putting out patch, I think is a good thing. Thanks for the update!

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

Roland, on 02 September 2014 - 09:18 AM, said:

Why would yesterday being a holiday impact their delivery of a patch today?

Because PGI, have you learned nothing in your time here Roland?

[Torgun]

Flash Frame, on 02 September 2014 - 10:23 AM, said:

Because PGI, have you learned nothing in your time here Roland?

To be fair, I think it was a rhetorical question.

[Reported for Inappropriate Name]

Roland, on 02 September 2014 - 09:18 AM, said:

Why would yesterday being a holiday impact their delivery of a patch today?

because in first world countries people use holidays as an excuse to ruin work productivity for roughly 7 days, mostly due to being spoiled and living in a consumerism slave empire built on the flesh and bones of production line slaves in less fortunate countries. Every thanksgiving for example I give thanks that I can use an arbitrary day of the month as an excuse to get drunk, pack on 20 pounds, and stare at a box watching grown men grope each other over a ball, instead of making ipods for rich white kids who play justice warrior at school, and then picking through garbage for metals to suppliment my meager pay so I can afford to keep my children alive long enough until they are old enough to enjoy the same fate. No that's not sarcasm, I am very thankful to be lucky enough to be born in a country where I can actually be lazy and a general ******* to everybody with little recourse. This is not sarcasm, its just easy to read it that way.

Bryan Ekman, on 02 September 2014 - 10:10 AM, said:

We're going to be patching tomorrow. With the data center migration and changes to billing, time was tight for deploying today. Patch incoming tomorrow.

(Read - more testing needed)

that sounds reasonable, although the only patch I'm interested in right now is one that will restore connection stability because this issue alone is highly toxic to the community in regards to new player retainment. One thing people don't like is the unknown, ESPECIALLY when it comes to their money and ESPECIALLY during a recession/depression. even more so when we're talking about the one resource you cant refund, time.

Edited by Battlecruiser, 02 September 2014 - 10:59 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 September 2014 - 10:20 AM, said:

Was it in any way Gov'T related....cuz if so, you better believe I paid you!!!

I work for Ford so...No.

[Bishop Steiner]

Battlecruiser, on 02 September 2014 - 10:43 AM, said:

because in first world countries people use holidays as an excuse to ruin work productivity for roughly 7 days, mostly due to being spoiled and living in a consumerism slave empire built on the flesh and bones of production line slaves in less fortunate countries. Every thanksgiving for example I give thanks that I can use an arbitrary day of the month as an excuse to get drunk, pack on 20 pounds, and stare at a box watching grown men grope each other over a ball, instead of making ipods for rich white kids who play justice warrior at school, and then picking through garbage for metals to suppliment my meager pay so I can afford to keep my children alive long enough until they are old enough to enjoy the same fate. No that's not sarcasm, I am very thankful to be lucky enough to be born in a country where I can actually be lazy and a general ******* to everybody with little recourse. This is not sarcasm, its just easy to read it that way.

wow, I'm amazed you can afford to be on these forums then, being so repressed.

[Tesunie]

Roland, on 02 September 2014 - 09:40 AM, said:

Well, yes.. it'd be their friday workload.
I mean, for a normal software company, you don't just do "Friday stuff" on Friday. You do the stuff that needs to get done. You set up a schedule based on a deadline.

I'm not sure you mean by "their normal Friday workload".

Because of the holiday, my trash wont be picked up till the next day after the normal pick up day... PGI is not the only ones to push things back one day when there is a Monday holiday. A LOT of companies do this practice. Don't know why you are railing on PGI on this one. (Only thing I would get on them about is that there should be an announcement saying as much, but that's a rather minor point seen as they have been doing this at least since I joined MWO.)

Bishop Steiner, on 02 September 2014 - 10:50 AM, said:

wow, I'm amazed you can afford to be on these forums then, being so repressed.

Amazing how he has to pick through garbage to make enough money to survive, but can spend money for internet and able to play games? I can say from personal experience, when I have hard times and money gets tight, the first thing to go is the internet. Wouldn't be the first time I've live without it, wouldn't be the last...

[Dolph Hoskins]

Battlecruiser, on 02 September 2014 - 10:43 AM, said:

because in first world countries people use holidays as an excuse to ruin work productivity for roughly 7 days, mostly due to being spoiled and living in a consumerism slave empire built on the flesh and bones of production line slaves in less fortunate countries. Every thanksgiving for example I give thanks that I can use an arbitrary day of the month as an excuse to get drunk, pack on 20 pounds, and stare at a box watching grown men grope each other over a ball, instead of making ipods for rich white kids who play justice warrior at school, and then picking through garbage for metals to suppliment my meager pay so I can afford to keep my children alive long enough until they are old enough to enjoy the same fate. No that's not sarcasm, I am very thankful to be lucky enough to be born in a country where I can actually be lazy and a general ******* to everybody with little recourse. This is not sarcasm, its just easy to read it that way.


that sounds reasonable, although the only patch I'm interested in right now is one that will restore connection stability because this issue alone is highly toxic to the community in regards to new player retainment.

I too am thankful. Every time one of the huge waterbugs that are very common in this region sneak their way out of one of the major drain lines and into the house I promptly smash it into a gooey pile. I am thankful I was not born an insect living in and feeding off of the scum lining of subterranean drainage pipes... There is much to be thankful for. I am glad to see not everyone in the interweb takes things for granted.