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[RealityCube]

"And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made: And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth."

I'm wondering when the Raven received the change to it's weapons. This looks terrible, the Raven no longer has the laser barrels on the arm. I can't say for sure that the hitboxes weren't fixed, but I can almost guarantee they weren't. So did PGI really take the time to make the Raven look terrible and then not fix the leg hitboxes while they were there?

Please revert the Raven's weapons back to how they were, and while you're there fix the leg hitboxes please.


Edit: Pic because it happened

Edited by Cyner, 09 September 2014 - 04:36 PM.

[Hans Von Lohman]

Pics or it didn't happen.

[Spheroid]

^ you can see for yourself just go into the mechlab.

[Mcgral18]

Spheroid, on 09 September 2014 - 04:25 PM, said:

^ you can see for yourself just go into the mechlab.

You know, many people don't use Ravens.


Show us the AC20 and Gauss. That's all we really need.

[RealityCube]

Hans Von Lohman, on 09 September 2014 - 04:19 PM, said:

Pics or it didn't happen.

Pic of ugliness is now included.

[101011]

Man, that looks worse than the Catapult.

[CycKath]

NO! The Raven's Lasers were perfect, just as in TT, these are not good. Hopefully it's like Spider 5K having Clan machine guns and they fix/revert.

Edited by CycKath, 09 September 2014 - 04:52 PM.

[Artgathan]

Yup... I'm dreading the day they get to my beloved Centurion.

[Pika]

Cyner, on 09 September 2014 - 04:17 PM, said:

"And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made: And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth."

I'm wondering when the Raven received the change to it's weapons. This looks terrible, the Raven no longer has the laser barrels on the arm. I can't say for sure that the hitboxes weren't fixed, but I can almost guarantee they weren't. So did PGI really take the time to make the Raven look terrible and then not fix the leg hitboxes while they were there?

Please revert the Raven's weapons back to how they were, and while you're there fix the leg hitboxes please.

Are you people _EVER_ happy? No matter what PGI do, I get the feeling you'll be here complaining, even if they gave you premium time for fr- oh wait. They do. And people complain.

But yeah. I disagree. I think it looks awesome. It's almost like we have different opinions, eh?

[RealityCube]

Pika, on 09 September 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

Are you people _EVER_ happy? No matter what PGI do, I get the feeling you'll be here complaining, even if they gave you premium time for fr- oh wait. They do. And people complain.

But yeah. I disagree. I think it looks awesome. It's almost like we have different opinions, eh?

You've never seen me complain about ANYTHING except the leg nerfs to Ravens, and once about the jumpjet nerfs to Highlanders. This does look terrible though, I'd like to see the iconic Raven look remain the same.

[Kjudoon]

I know their missile hardpoints changed. I can now mount an LRM 20 on the 2X and 4X that will fire in one salvo and LRM10 on the 3L. This makes me happy since they are squishy mecks thanks to their geometry.

[Monkey Lover]

What I wonder is why a little mechs have smaller weapons with the same damage as a larger mech?

Why does a catapult need two huge sides when a raven has the same thing 1/10 the size?

[Pika]

Cyner, on 09 September 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

You've never seen me complain about ANYTHING except the leg nerfs to Ravens, and once about the jumpjet nerfs to Highlanders. This does look terrible though, I'd like to see the iconic Raven look remain the same.

Different strokes, man. I think the "Iconic" Raven is getting a bit long in the tooth. That curved front would look terrible these days (Honestly think it was starting to look dated back in MW4.) But, eh. Whatever does it for you. I do genuinely prefer the new design.

Edited by Pika, 09 September 2014 - 05:22 PM.

[Impyrium]

Monkey Lover, on 09 September 2014 - 05:07 PM, said:

What I wonder is why a little mechs have smaller weapons with the same damage as a larger mech?

Why does a catapult need two huge sides when a raven has the same thing 1/10 the size?

Well, you could argue that in the lore, each 'Mech's weapon system was produced by a different manufacturer. So not every medium laser was the same. The term 'PPC' is technically fairly general, just as we'd say 'Assault Rifle' now. So one would imagine that each manufacturer would produce their weapons to suit the chassis.

Obviously that's just lore spouting, and since it's a game every weapon works the same. But technically it makes sense.

[Tristan Winter]

I like the change a lot. I'm also pleased with the energy weapon arm not being HUGE due to gun barrels, since it typically carries most of the weapons on a Raven.

[101011]

AUSwarrior24, on 09 September 2014 - 05:21 PM, said:

Well, you could argue that in the lore, each 'Mech's weapon system was produced by a different manufacturer. So not every medium laser was the same. The term 'PPC' is technically fairly general, just as we'd say 'Assault Rifle' now. So one would imagine that each manufacturer would produce their weapons to suit the chassis.

Obviously that's just lore spouting, and since it's a game every weapon works the same. But technically it makes sense.

Yeah, but it still makes no sense that a little PPC on the arm of a Kitfox is just as powerful and weighs just as much as a huge-ass PPC on a Dire Wolf.

Edited by 101011, 09 September 2014 - 05:25 PM.

[Alistair Winter]

101011, on 09 September 2014 - 05:25 PM, said:

Yeah, but it still makes no sense that a little PPC on the arm of a Kitfox is just as powerful and weighs just as much as a huge-ass PPC on a Dire Wolf.

Looks totally reasonable to me.

[Past]

The right arm looks crap without its barrels. Why do they even do things like this?

[MATRAKA14]

Its far better than the catapult mechlab treatment. The best solution is keeping how it is, but use the old laser aesthetics only for ER LL, LL and LPL. Also the ppc is a bit short. I haven't seen the ballistics, i dont have the 4x.

Missile arm (pictures):

Spoiler

Edited by Catalina Steiner, 10 September 2014 - 10:51 AM.

[CocoaJin]

Cyner, on 09 September 2014 - 04:17 PM, said:

"And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made: And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth."

I'm wondering when the Raven received the change to it's weapons. This looks terrible, the Raven no longer has the laser barrels on the arm. I can't say for sure that the hitboxes weren't fixed, but I can almost guarantee they weren't. So did PGI really take the time to make the Raven look terrible and then not fix the leg hitboxes while they were there?

Please revert the Raven's weapons back to how they were, and while you're there fix the leg hitboxes please.



Edit: Pic because it happened

I don't see a problem...it appears you have no ballistics equipped, so you dont have have any gun barrels modeled...what in the hell could possibly be wrong with that?

Granted, I could see the empty mounting face being modeled better, instead of a flat, more or less texture less surface, they could have modeled two vertical blisters to show where the barrels would have been...it certainly would make the surface look more coherent and native to the chassis...but I can understand such custom additions to the model might need sometime to evolve.

But I in no way prefer weapon showing that aren't equipped...I'd choose this level of accurately modeling the build of a chassis any day...though admittedly I'd like it to look better.