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#1 9thDeathscream

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 10:21 AM

Any chance of getting "Warning Narc beacon Detected" With some visual warning as well.

All we can do is tell each other and that is hard with the current chat system.

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 10:29 AM

you should post suggestions here: http://mwomercs.com/...re-suggestions/

Infact, some have already made a posts about it :
http://mwomercs.com/...info-if-narced/ (has a poll)
http://mwomercs.com/...6-narc-warning/

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 10:32 AM

There was similar thread about this before in patch feedback area. My opinion was no. You get something stuck on in which you can't see, but friendlies would see stuck to you and thus they get an icon showing you NARCd. Almost like asking if you should get a alert that you are getting tagged. Could mitigate that with modules as well, like a better friendly info share, etc. I use and have had NARC used on me, so I am on both ends of the scale, but I think I like NARC how it is.

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 10:44 AM

Well, if you are a seasoned pilot its fairly easily to tell if u have one attached or if your being spotted (Tagged). But if you are newer to this game it would help a lot.

Oh and my bad for posting this here.

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 11:08 AM

View PostAkuPyro, on 10 September 2014 - 10:32 AM, said:

You get something stuck on in which you can't see, but friendlies would see stuck to you and thus they get an icon showing you NARCd. Almost like asking if you should get a alert that you are getting tagged.

Big difference between Narc and TAG - a Narc Beacon broadcasts a strong signal that the incoming missiles home in on. The targeted Mech should be able to detect the signal just as easily as the incoming missiles, so you absolutely should get a warning that you've been Narc'd.

Realistically, a Tag laser should be invisible, but since it's a thin red line it's already pretty easy to tell when you're being tagged. But yes, you should also receive a warning when you're being tagged since it's an incoming laser beam that your Mech should be able to detect (whether it is visible to the naked eye or not).

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 11:21 AM

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but friendlies would see stuck to you and thus they get an icon showing you NARCd.


This makes no sense. I can "see" a friendly NARCed from 800m away through multiple solid objects.

Heck, I can see if they're TAG'd. Both should show up on the HUD.

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 11:22 AM

Wouldn't it be awesome if we used some of those display screens all the cockpits have?

#8 AkuPyro

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 12:01 PM

View Postwanderer, on 10 September 2014 - 11:21 AM, said:

This makes no sense. I can "see" a friendly NARCed from 800m away through multiple solid objects.

Heck, I can see if they're TAG'd. Both should show up on the HUD.


Generalization of "see" meaning use of optics, and yes, it makes more sense if it was LOS. But then again, we all share info without C3 and the current ECM is like two in one iirc. Though it is a strong beacon, the signal would be set for friendlies, much in the same as targeting with a tag, or does the signal get propagated via the mech and not the marker on the mech? Urgh, must dig more into the material, though the discrepancies don't help.

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 12:06 PM

I have always wondered, how does narc survive all of those missiles that get locked on to it for so long. Does it have the same armor of those little cars on the city maps?

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 12:18 PM

View PostAkuPyro, on 10 September 2014 - 12:06 PM, said:

I have always wondered, how does narc survive all of those missiles that get locked on to it for so long. Does it have the same armor of those little cars on the city maps?


I'd say the missiles just home in on the general vicinity of the signal rather than the beacon specifically, maybe someone more versed in the tech can tell us :)

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 02:21 PM

NARC beacons are generally destroyed in TT when the section they're attached to goes bye-bye.

In any case, in MWO we know when we're locked by missiles. NARC is an even stronger lock signal. Not being able to know it's happening is....silly.





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