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[Belorion]

Is it just me or is our Faction Map wrong?

[Tkhaw]

The green should be bigger

[Belorion]

The point being that at our specific point in time, Davion and Stiener are both FedCom, and I think remain that way till the FedCom civil war. Yet on our faction map they are separate.

[5th Fedcom Rat]

You called?

But yeah, the in-game map is wrong. But so are Clan mechs being put in companies of 12.

This game only makes any sense as a simulator of Solaris arena combat circa 3125, post-Jihad. With crude re-enactments in deathmatch arenas of famous battles in Battletech's past, like they used to do in the Roman coliseum and seen in Gladiator.

This week's theme is Clan invasion, with some artificial handicaps being put on the Clan mech's weapons to make the combat more exciting for the spectators. And Steiner and Davion pretending they weren't married back then, because their fans now hate each other.

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Edited by 5th Fedcom Rat, 10 September 2014 - 05:16 AM.

[Dulahan]

Even that map is wrong, since at this point the St. Ives Compact was independent. A Fed Com protectorate for sure, but independent. And darn it, should be in the game! It lasted almost as long as Rasalhague did before Rasalhague became a functional Ghost Bear faction.

[Jack Avery]

Well, speaking just on the FedCom issue, it doesn't make much sense to show a map with correct FedCom boundaries when you can't even join it as a faction. Remember, we don't have FedCom, we have the Great Houses, so showing the Federated Suns (Davion) and Lyran Commonwealth (Steiner) makes a bit more sense, especially for players new to Battletech in general.

It's still wrong, mind you, and should be updated, but it does make some sense.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Jack Avery, on 10 September 2014 - 06:54 AM, said:

Well, speaking just on the FedCom issue, it doesn't make much sense to show a map with correct FedCom boundaries when you can't even join it as a faction. Remember, we don't have FedCom, we have the Great Houses, so showing the Federated Suns (Davion) and Lyran Commonwealth (Steiner) makes a bit more sense, especially for players new to Battletech in general.

Yea, they could color Steiner and Davion in different colors, but have a single colored outline tracing around both to imply they are together. Well, as together as they ever really achieved. I was always under the impression it as a pretty shaky union. It definently had an ugly break-up.

[Dracol]

If I recall my lore correctly, even though they were joined via marriage, most characters were portrayed as only identifying as one or the other.

[LauLiao]

If I remember correctly, while their armies were being integrated and functionally they were one house, they were still nominally separate entities until Hanse and Melissa both died and Victor took the throne of both Houses. It was only then that both houses were officially joined.

[Apnu]

PGI is taking liberties with the time line so the Steiner folks can have their own house.

They should have some kind of alliance between Steiner and Davion so that later on we can have the most famous and awesome civil war in BT history. (Marik doesn't count, they have a civil war every other weekend and on the 3rd Thursday).

[Malleus011]

LauLiao, on 10 September 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

If I remember correctly, while their armies were being integrated and functionally they were one house, they were still nominally separate entities until Hanse and Melissa both died and Victor took the throne of both Houses. It was only then that both houses were officially joined.

Yep, that's correct. We should be AFFC (Armed Forces Federated Commonwealth) with the fist-and-sunburst insignia. Until Victor takes over, we're not a unified realm - but the AFFC is why all those Davion boys died defending Steiner worlds from the Clans.

If they're going to split the houses, at least do it correctly - the chunk of House Marik and House Liao that Hanse Davion took was a wedding gift to Melissa; those worlds should be in House Steiner. And St. Ives should be independent as well, nominally allied with the Fed-Com, and allowed to help out against the Clans (Hello, Kai Allard-Liao!).

IMHO, the timeline stops about 3062. The rest of that stuff is fiction.

Edited by Malleus011, 10 September 2014 - 09:06 AM.