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[Nick86]

Okay, I'm trying to equip my Panther/Boars Head/other mech reliant on arm hardpoints and the most BS thing happens...

The weapons I add take up the bottom slots so I'm firing under-arm.

I don't want to fire under arm. Why the hell would anyone choose to do this?!
Who holds a gun upside down to fire? No one who's lived to tell the tale surely...

PGI, PLEASE... fix this so that when weapons are added they take the higher slots first, or even allow us to move them around.

(Boils my PI$$...!!)

Thankyou..

[Fate 6]

The first energy mount on the Panther isn't terrible but the second one stuck on below that is a crime.

[LordMelvin]

Probably should blame this guy.

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

Nick86, on 25 March 2015 - 10:56 AM, said:

Who holds a gun upside down to fire?

Clearly, you don't know battlemech designers.







Low slung weaponry is a staple of battletech...

The problem is, in the lore, this isn't an issue because a battlemech's arm can move like a humans, so it can extend that arm, and raise it so that the weapon is roughly chest level...

Sadly this is functionality that has never made it into a Mechwarrior game. So you have to deal with low slung hardpoints...

[Hans Von Lohman]

Because it looks cool.

The art was made for a board game where it didn't matter at all.

At least now you can actually put weapons onto the mech in the order you want them to go. It used to be you could only do that with a trick involving buying new weapons to sit in the 2nd and 3rd positions.

Or has nobody noticed that bug got fixed? I'm sure some of you haven't.

Edited by Hans Von Lohman, 25 March 2015 - 11:16 AM.

[Risko Vinsheen]

Hans Von Lohman, on 25 March 2015 - 11:15 AM, said:

Because it looks cool.

The art was made for a board game where it didn't matter at all.

At least now you can actually put weapons onto the mech in the order you want them to go. It used to be you could only do that with a trick involving buying new weapons to sit in the 2nd and 3rd positions.

Or has nobody noticed that bug got fixed? I'm sure some of you haven't.

Some weapons default to a certain location, though. For example on the Panther a PPC automatically defaults to the first weapon slot on the model even if you add it after two medium lasers (in an attempt to get it on the side of the arm rather than under it.)

[STEF_]

Made an ironic thread time ago...
http://mwomercs.com/...52-5ml-panther/

[Mechteric]

They really need to make it be a first-installed == highest-slot order. That's the only way to make it right.

[TercieI]

CapperDeluxe, on 25 March 2015 - 12:12 PM, said:

They really need to make it be a first-installed == highest-slot order. That's the only way to make it right.

Or just individual hardpoints so there's none of this idiotic guesswork and you don't have to spend tonnage on "shim" small lasers on Banshees (or pull missile tube shenanigans on Victors, etc.)

Edited by Terciel1976, 25 March 2015 - 12:45 PM.

[Mirumoto Izanami]

Battlemechs are gangsta.

[Nick86]

Stefka Kerensky, on 25 March 2015 - 12:08 PM, said:

Made an ironic thread time ago...
http://mwomercs.com/...52-5ml-panther/

Well this just says it all... An exaggeration I know, BUT.... it may as well be. This is a FPS game.. I know it's a battletech game too..but.. It's also and FPS game..

LordMelvin, on 25 March 2015 - 11:09 AM, said:

Probably should blame this guy.

So less of this please.. I mean.. really...

'Sigh..'

Well, at least I got that off my chest and it felt constructive..
I wonder if PGI will listen... (oh.. blood pressure going up again..)

Edited by Nick86, 26 March 2015 - 01:18 AM.

[Lily from animove]

Hans Von Lohman, on 25 March 2015 - 11:15 AM, said:

Because it looks cool.

The art was made for a board game where it didn't matter at all.

At least now you can actually put weapons onto the mech in the order you want them to go. It used to be you could only do that with a trick involving buying new weapons to sit in the 2nd and 3rd positions.

Or has nobody noticed that bug got fixed? I'm sure some of you haven't.

yeah, but even then, I guess mechs in the Lore were able to raise their arms, while MWO mechs can't do that (well actually all MW games mechs were like this)



But it woulld look a bit stupid if all our mechs would run aroudn with raised arms all the time, and a arm "switch" would be a bit complicated to control. So we need to life with that abstract version of BT until we get some cool VR devices transferring our movements into mehc movements.

[Blissful Negligence]

Hey Nick,

What's your COD KDR?

[Cyborne Elemental]

Griffin.

Battlemaster

Atlas

There are only a handful of top mounted arm weapons on mechs, but it still comes down to designer interpretation more than it does lore or classic BT references.

[Joseph Mallan]

Panther CBT

Panther MWO

Difference noted.

[Karl Streiger]

well once there was a trade off - low slung arms - got arm yaw - (fast snap fire - is nice) - or high mounted arms - no yaw but well high mount.
(house rule - those mechs were not allowed to fire there weapons into the "arm" field of fire - but where able to flip)

But since july 2014 we have mechs with both disadvantages - low slung arms and no arm yaw (and i still don't get the reason) -

Edited by Karl Streiger, 26 March 2015 - 03:39 AM.

[Nick86]

SLICKNIFTY, on 26 March 2015 - 02:23 AM, said:

Hey Nick,

What's your COD KDR?

I don't have one, but if we had less tardy arms in mwo this kdr would be somewhat better..

Bet they didn't have stupid rocks or invisible walls in original battletech.

[Juodas Varnas]

Arms are for losers anyway!
Quadruped 'mechs for president 2015!

*Cough* On a more serious note, low slung arms shouldn't be a problem that it is now. In my opinion, they should make it so that the mech would lift their arms (at least to some degree) automatically to go over cover.