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#241 Lukoi Banacek

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:23 PM

I don't believe the top five concept will work for this.

I've seen many of the names provided and while many of those players are great posters, very helpful to new players etc, their ideas on balance differ much from many of the other players out there who actively discuss and consider balance from anything approaching an attempt at objectivity.

I think PGI should simply open a thread allowing for ideas to be tossed in with HEAVY moderation. Not a regular thread that can (and likely will) dissolve into needless arguments, theorycrafting and sidebars (not to mention the personal attacks).

A thread where players can offer their thoughts and then....the next poster offers theirs and so on. In a heavily moderated thread, what discussion that does develop would be only an outgrowth of people seeing each other's counterpoints and returning to edit their threads with better thought out, considered options.

If folks feel compelled to become argumentative, backbiting etc...the mods delete the post or the portions irrelevant. Heavy moderation in this form of feedback can actually be helpful in keeping the ideas coming, with the theorycraft disagreements becoming pandemic.

#242 xhrit

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:24 PM

I nominate sandpit.

#243 wanderer

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:26 PM

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You can spend 1000s on MC and never get a single badge. PGI doesn't reward whales, just preorders.

This would take people revealing their transaction records- which I actually have no problem with, but others might not.

Add that to the list. You spent at least $30 on the account in some form, you get a vote. One.

That's something even the :tenbux: crew should be able to get behind.

#244 buttmonkey

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:26 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 12 September 2014 - 03:20 PM, said:

have you ever tried "paste as plain text"? That's bloody painful to look at, let alone try to read.

no pain no gain

#245 A banana in the tailpipe

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:29 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 12 September 2014 - 03:10 PM, said:

When people make a valid point, or say something I enjoy, I recognize that. Which is why you have never received a like from me. And yet, you still follow me around wherever I go like a lost puppy, desperate for attention.

But thank you for demonstrating to all here why no serious Forum poster remotely pays you any mind.


I followed the stench of course, and you indeed have lent me several likes in the past when I've fallen in line with the status quo, but you'll say anything including lies to save your own face because that ego has grown so large it makes such a superb target. ;)

You'd be surprised how many players who avoid these forums because blowhards like yourself dominate them come to me in personal messages with thanks for being the voice of reason, or standing out against something unjust. just doing my part in reminding you how so many pay me piece of mind, which is why you only reply when it suits you because as a "social general" you haven't got the legs to stand on from sitting in that arm chair for so long. ;)

Edited by lockwoodx, 12 September 2014 - 03:39 PM.


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:30 PM

View Postxhrit, on 12 September 2014 - 03:24 PM, said:

I nominate sandpit.

I second this, he makes a persuasive argument.

#247 Livewyr

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:35 PM

Perhaps the OP should go through the thread and pick out the names that are put forth and consolidate them in the OP for consideration. (Except Bishop, as he has declined the nomination.. and he is a big stinky doodoohead. ;) )

#248 Garandos

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:38 PM

View PostLivewyr, on 12 September 2014 - 03:35 PM, said:

Perhaps the OP should go through the thread and pick out the names that are put forth and consolidate them in the OP for consideration. (Except Bishop, as he has declined the nomination.. and he is a big stinky doodoohead. ;) )



I was under the impression this is a community project *smile*
but i can do that.

#249 A banana in the tailpipe

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:38 PM

doublepost my bad

Edited by lockwoodx, 12 September 2014 - 03:39 PM.


#250 xengk

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:39 PM

Throwing in Jman5
http://mwomercs.com/...r/335552-jman5/

Edited by xengk, 12 September 2014 - 03:40 PM.


#251 Antonio

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:43 PM

Why can't this forum be "The Council"? I think we should be able to develop a business process in which anyone can propose an idea that can be vetted internally and then submitted to PGI as an "official" proposal.

#252 Agent 0 Fortune

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:44 PM

Isn't one of the biggest issues that lead to this moment, the lack of community interaction from PGI?
Electing someone who is unable or unwilling to contribute on these forums presents the exact same problems. I believe those players can contribute greatly as advisers but lack the visibility required for a counsel seat.

#253 Mudhutwarrior

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:44 PM

I would like to nominate some random player with only less than 30 matches.

#254 BladeSplint

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:47 PM

I'd like to nominate myself for PUG rep. I have a lot of passion for this game and I love the design aspects of my major/future career (Aerospace Engineering) so game design is something I find fun. I think I've become reasonably skilled considering 95% of the games I play are solo drops (I got second place in last season's 1v1 ladder). I should be free to meet most times and I don't like to get into yelling matches. I'd like to bring the PUG side of the discussion to the table, if you'll give me the chance.

edited for lack of hyperlink skill...

Edited by BladeSplint, 12 September 2014 - 03:51 PM.


#255 Xarian

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:48 PM

I generally come to the forums to look for helpful gameplay discussion and posts from the developers. Barring that, I'll read Bishop Steiner's stuff because he's basically always running around trying to rescue the giant robot princess from the dragon who lives in Poor Balance Castle. It's like watching a forum version of Super Mario, except with that giant blue fist waving around everywhere instead of a plumber 'stache. I specifically avoid the 'whine' threads, which thankfully have been declining.

I'm throwing my vote in for Koniving. He's intelligent, positive, and collected. I've never talked to him or played with him, but he's got good ideas all around.

#256 Livewyr

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:50 PM

View PostGarandos, on 12 September 2014 - 03:38 PM, said:



I was under the impression this is a community project *smile*
but i can do that.


Are you not a member of the community? :)


(Just figured one could modify the OP here rather than start a whole new thread of the exact same type- in order to direct conversation towards the persons in question, and possible additions.)

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:51 PM

View Postxhrit, on 12 September 2014 - 03:24 PM, said:

I nominate sandpit.

Problem is, sandpit is banned. He's willing to take an olive branch.

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:51 PM

Like the theory and idea.. in practice..
Some items that pop into my head:

If as a community we cannot even agree on how to get a council together why should PGI listen to it?

If as a community we cannot agree on its members why should PGI listen to it?

We need to accept other people have there own views no matter how much we disagree with them or this will just degenerate.

In no way should this be a permanent position and should change fluidly. There will be lots of frustration and burnout.. as getting a consensus in the MechWarrior community is like trying to heard many glaring's of cats while wearing a suit made entirely of laser pointers.
(Note: A group of cats is referred to as a "clowder" or a "glaring", a male cat is called a "tom" or "tomcat" (or a "gib", if neutered), an unaltered female is called a "queen", and a pre-pubescent juvenile is referred to as a "kitten".)

If the topic is a technical discussion bring in the people who like Homeless bill... If it is a competitive subject redo council with people like JagerXII... If its about community relation problems with PGI.. bring in Roadbeer..

If this truly is a new era we all have to somehow find a way to work together..

#259 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:51 PM

View PostXarian, on 12 September 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

I generally come to the forums to look for helpful gameplay discussion and posts from the developers. Barring that, I'll read Bishop Steiner's stuff because he's basically always running around trying to rescue the giant robot princess from the dragon who lives in Poor Balance Castle. It's like watching a forum version of Super Mario, except with that giant blue fist waving around everywhere instead of a plumber 'stache. I specifically avoid the 'whine' threads, which thankfully have been declining.

I'm throwing my vote in for Koniving. He's intelligent, positive, and collected. I've never talked to him or played with him, but he's got good ideas all around.

The Princess IS in grave danger.........

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:57 PM

View PostGarandos, on 12 September 2014 - 11:43 AM, said:

So, for the Dialog about ECM, we should elect a "council" of spokesmen, i would suggest we use this thread to get some nominees up.

After, the guys and gals we decide on, should organise a different thread, to discuss the Topic of ECM in itself.

This is, just to be seen as suggestion thought :)

i would think, 5 people would be a good start for a "council team"




In theory this is a good idea. I haven't been here long enough to say who should be on it. This I will say if this happens I guarantee there will be people who will not be happy, 2 reasons 1. there are those who are never happy about anything & 2. they're not on the council.

View PostNovakaine, on 12 September 2014 - 03:22 PM, said:

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I'll nominate myself because hell I'm just plain cool.



No self esteem issues here! :P





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