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[InspectorG]

Got my second Assault, A Banshee M.

Went cheap: std 320 engine, 5ml, 2LL, 1mpl, rest is HS
NO UPGRADES....CHEAP!!!!

CHEAP!!!




I am dong a lot better than in my Victor K, thats for sure.

So, is there a point in which, when boating, SHS are better than DHS due to the size constraints?
IM not the most mathematically inclined person to figure this out...

[T0rmented]

Hmmm SHS:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...04cbcd4d35225f6

DHS:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...7ccc53ac51a967b
slightly better cooling, almost 10kph faster!

Edit:
Your math may suck but smurfy does it for you and SHS are almost always plain inferior

Edited by T0rmented, 12 September 2014 - 03:29 PM.

[Thanik]

You're better off ditching endo steel and squeezing in more doubles than you are fitting singles. Assuming 10 sinks in your engine, at 28 SHS total, you're paying 8 tons to save 12 slots. If you're already using standard structure and still need more cooling, it could be worth it in rare cases if your engine is 250-270 rated, but I'd rethink the whole design at that point.

Bigger engines skew the math further in favour of doubles obviously, as do lighter mechs. It's possible that SHS could be more efficient than doubles if you really want to pilot a 35kph assault with a gazillion lasers or something.

[Void Angel]

InspectorG, on 12 September 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

So, is there a point in which, when boating, SHS are better than DHS due to the size constraints?

No; there are a few outlier builds like SHS ERPPC Atlases, but their dps just doesn't justify the cooling. Double heat sinks are always better, and a must-have on any 'mech you want to keep - or simply be competitive in.

[InspectorG]

I went with doubles.

Funny thing happened, though this will change with a different engine.
I have a STD320 in there with 2 engine sinks, crammed as many dhs and ran out of room. Have 3 or 4 spare tons with nothing to use it for. Cooling efficiency went from 1.12 to 1.14
I tried endo with more shs, efficiency went to 1.16.

Granted a bigger engine will allow more internal sinks, looking for a nice balance point in regards to weight/space. Maybe a 350 engine?

[Superlag]

Or your could do something like this smurfy SHS BNC-3M troll build. And have THIS much fun in it!!! SHS vs DHS... case closed!

Edited by Superlag, 03 October 2014 - 12:22 PM.

[Voivode]

I have never seen a build with SHS that was viable. The closes was a Locust 1V with only a medium laser and 4xMG but even that single medium laser proved to be too hot for SHS to handle.

SHS serve no purpose in this game, other than good times in something like the Marik stock mech drops.

[Superlag]

Thanik, on 13 September 2014 - 03:02 PM, said:

You're better off ditching endo steel and squeezing in more doubles than you are fitting singles. Assuming 10 sinks in your engine, at 28 SHS total, you're paying 8 tons to save 12 slots. If you're already using standard structure and still need more cooling, it could be worth it in rare cases if your engine is 250-270 rated, but I'd rethink the whole design at that point.

Bigger engines skew the math further in favour of doubles obviously, as do lighter mechs. It's possible that SHS could be more efficient than doubles if you really want to pilot a 35kph assault with a gazillion lasers or something.

You can also go quite fast with SHS... smurfy speedy SHS BNC-3M troll build.

Edit: Forgot Endo Steel to make it even better.

Edited by Superlag, 03 October 2014 - 12:38 PM.

[RazorbeastFXK3]

I don't think I'd want to pilot that 'mech after the first time I lose my side torsi. "OKAY Betty.. I get it! I lost standard heat sinks! Shut up already!!!"

Superlag, on 03 October 2014 - 12:34 PM, said:

You can also go quite fast with SHS... smurfy speedy SHS BNC-3M troll build.

Edit: Forgot Endo Steel to make it even better.

[oldradagast]

Void Angel, on 13 September 2014 - 03:38 PM, said:

No; there are a few outlier builds like SHS ERPPC Atlases, but their dps just doesn't justify the cooling. Double heat sinks are always better, and a must-have on any 'mech you want to keep - or simply be competitive in.

There is a single exception I've seen where you can skimp on the DHS, and that would be a Dual Gauss setup, or one that uses Gauss backed up by machine guns. But that's about it.

Any build that uses any weapon other than those 2 would be better with DHS.

[Void Angel]

Yeah, you're right - I was for getting those Jaeger and Catapult sniper builds.

[Mad Ox]

Superlag, on 03 October 2014 - 12:15 PM, said:

Or your could do something like this smurfy SHS BNC-3M troll build. And have THIS much fun in it!!! SHS vs DHS... case closed!

DHS version BNC-3M (DHS and Med Lasers)

Not bad but with DHS I switch to 375 STD engine 12.7 KPH more speed (14 kph speed tweak) and touch better armor for drop from 56% to 50%. Along with Twist, Yaw and pitch speed increases. Though does look fun either way LOL

Edited by Mad Ox, 10 October 2014 - 07:44 AM.