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#581 SgtMagor

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 04:33 PM

iirc, I think we had till the 23 last day when the Mad Dog will be dropped in game!

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 04:45 PM

Now that the intial, "OMG IT'S SO COOL" has worn of a bit, I do have a couple of conserns:

Myst Lynx (Koshi) - It says that it has XL 175 but the speed of 118.8 km/h doesn't mach any egine rating, posibly an XL180 = 116.6km/h. Both weigh the same, so can we expect a free engine upgrade on a not so fast Clan light?

Ice Ferret (Fenris) - Has an XL 360 and should go 135.7km/h before tweak and 149.2km/h after, will that be the case?

Hellbringer (Loki) - Standard armor and structure??!!! Also what about Alt. Config. F : 2 - CLB10X, 3 - CERMedLas 1- SRM6 it doesn't break any rules for current time line

Mad Dog (Vulture) - Is that thing gona have Endo also, or just Fero Fiberous armor?

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 04:52 PM

I am very pleased to see another clan light (hope its a little faster). Stoked that I will get my favorite clan mech (Vulture). If PGI wants to really fleece us for everything we have left, they will have some mix of the warhammer, archer, marauder, pheonix hawk, crusader and/or wasp in the next IS pack.

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 05:13 PM

View PostRuss Bullock, on 15 September 2014 - 11:37 AM, said:

Yes obviously the Mad Dog requires a significant investment and I would have given that away for free as well if I could but there are financial limitations. Thanks to all our supporters.


i can understand that, but will there be a c-bill version also?

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 05:38 PM

View PostHades Trooper, on 16 September 2014 - 05:13 PM, said:

i can understand that, but will there be a c-bill version also?

Yes, just like we are getting Cbill versions of the clan mechs from wave 1

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 05:43 PM

View PostLightning Kurita, on 16 September 2014 - 04:26 PM, said:

Iam a student now, who doesnt earn any money anymore, so from that point of view im a bit disappointed to see that happen...



So to ME ... its not quite fair that i have to wait another 4 months ...


Idea, get a job? Play the starving student card some where else. If you have time to play mwo, you have time to seek forms of income.
Also, it is not fair to those that contribute and constantly support this game to have their "unique" mechs and items just given to others because they think they should have them. This is not a welfare office. All you have to do is wait, boo hoo. Sorry man, thats life.

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 05:46 PM

nerf this thread before I have to quit my job to keep up...

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 06:16 PM

View PostRuss Bullock, on 15 September 2014 - 12:30 PM, said:


Yes that is right, that goes for the MC reward, pre-sale, top-tier and ultimate clan - still time to achieve them


So russ, in regards to this free atlas i have a quiry and with the poor responses i've gotten from customer support i'd like to bring this directly to your attention to which you may or may no be aware of

How can you say someone still has time to achieve pre-sale reward by buying a current clan pack when i did pre-sale purchase a clan pack and yet the upgrades i've made on that pre-sale don't count towards my pre-sale bonus?

What i'm taling about is my clan mechs i've upgraded to my pre-sale aren't being given the polygon pattern. As customer support responded saying there not counted towards pre-sale as they where bought after the clans where brought out.

such, by the logic i'm being given by customer support, how can anyone who buys one of th existing clan packs today count as a pre sale for freebies yet when i DID pre-sale i get told no there a date that the sale had to be made for.

In one statement your staff are saying what a pre-sale is, but in your response you say people can still achieve this. If your the man in charge why is it your staff are saying one thing and your saying another?

I liek what i see but can you understand from my pov i'm being burnt? On one hand your slapping me in the face by saying these late comers get freeibes and count as pre-sale account yet on the other your staff are saying no, sales after this date don't count as pre sales.

Can you get your company in order and make 1 simple ruling on what counts as a pre-sale and what doesn't.

All i want is a level playing field and one hand i'm told i'm a pre-sale account but on the other i'm not i'm not. who do i believe? when i click something that says i can upgrade my current sale is being upgraded not addon.

Ie like with my car and holiday. i bought the items and before the car arrvied or went on the holiday other special came along that i was able to UPGRADE my package, i was able to put bigger rims on it, i didn't have to buy the car and then buy new rims, i upgraded my car same for my holiday i added extra destinations as an upgrade.

Yet i get told here, not you adding on, not upgrading and yet now you come out and say, oh buy now and u can count as upgraded account for freebies.

Please can we get a ruling on this, either i get my polygon patterns and he gets his atlas, or we both get nothing.

how can u say to 1 thing to 1 customer and yet a different thing to a 2nd customer?


To me this is a double standard.


P.s. i really do like the new wave 2 clan mechs, but atm i feel robbed and i'm not comfortable giving any more money and i've been with the firm since closed beta.

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 06:20 PM

View PostVultureWarrior, on 16 September 2014 - 06:03 PM, said:

Idea, .

You're free to leave
Stop getting so mad
Either pay up or quit whining and simply wait.

Edited by Mal, 16 September 2014 - 07:07 PM.
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#590 Vulture4

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 06:28 PM

No.

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 06:29 PM

View PostVultureWarrior, on 16 September 2014 - 06:28 PM, said:

No.

well at least we all get to enjoy seeing you rage.

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 06:31 PM

View PostDestructicus, on 16 September 2014 - 06:20 PM, said:

You're free to leave
Stop getting so mad
Either pay up or quit whining and simply wait.

Exactly.

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 06:35 PM

View PostRuss Bullock, on 15 September 2014 - 11:37 AM, said:

Yes obviously the Mad Dog requires a significant investment and I would have given that away for free as well if I could but there are financial limitations. Thanks to all our supporters.



tell me the Kodiak is in Wave 3....

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 06:36 PM

Here's my take:

Myst Lynx (Koshi) - Promising design.

Ice Ferret (Fenris) - Not quite what I was expecting. Still anticipating this mech.

Hellbringer (Loki) - Looks fairly spot on.

Gargoyle (Man O War) - Pictures small but it looks as intimidating as expected.

Mad Dog (Vulture) - Oh god yes.

View PostCreovex, on 16 September 2014 - 06:35 PM, said:



tell me the Kodiak is in Wave 3....


I expect wave 3 will be the remaining 3 omni mechs plus the Mad Dog (Vulture) for regular players.

Edited by Butane9000, 16 September 2014 - 06:37 PM.


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Posted 16 September 2014 - 06:45 PM

View PostButane9000, on 16 September 2014 - 06:36 PM, said:

I expect wave 3 will be the remaining 3 omni mechs plus the Mad Dog (Vulture) for regular players.

Pretty sure they've said this is the last of Clan mechs. The three remaining Omnis all have MASC, which won't be implemented (at least not anytime soon. This means the Flea is cancelled as well by the way).

If we get any Clan mechs later on, they probably will be either IS refits (the Clans did capture a lot of them, and they have their own old stores of them), or Clan made second-line Battlemechs, like IIC mechs (IIC means "mk2, Clan version" basically).

#596 Deathlike

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 06:47 PM

The biggest concern about this new clan pack... is if PGI's ordering system is working correctly (since the server move and no more IGP handling stuff).

I'm not specifically talking about the logjam @ support, but I fear this will be a problem once tomorrow arrives...

Edited by Deathlike, 16 September 2014 - 06:47 PM.


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Posted 16 September 2014 - 06:59 PM

I hope you enjoy your $360 from a few* players when you could sell every Mech individually for a special early price of lets say $180 that way you can cater to a wider group of people and you would make more money that way insted of making people buy huge amounts at once. fyi you did that with Clan invasion individual Mechs $55.00. now people with good sense will have to wait 3 more months ..GG.. :blink:

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 07:12 PM

View PostVultureWarrior, on 16 September 2014 - 06:59 PM, said:

I hope you enjoy your $360 from a few* players when you could sell every Mech individually for a special early price of lets say $180 that way you can cater to a wider group of people and you would make more money that way insted of making people buy huge amounts at once. fyi you did that with Clan invasion individual Mechs $55.00. now people with good sense will have to wait 3 more months ..GG.. :blink:

well you just seem determined to be pissed off
We get it, it's your favorite mech
Can't you be happy it's at least in the game?
Right now there are people who are upset that Shadowcat or Flea aren't being added for the foreseeable future
And here you are just complaining you have to wait.
If you're gonna wait why don't you quit complaining and just wait, why do you have to complain?
Bitching isn't gonna fix it and they're not gonna magically give you what you want, especially with that attitude.

Edited by Destructicus, 16 September 2014 - 07:14 PM.


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Posted 16 September 2014 - 07:16 PM

View PostHades Trooper, on 16 September 2014 - 06:16 PM, said:


So russ, in regards to this free atlas i have a quiry and with the poor responses i've gotten from customer support i'd like to bring this directly to your attention to which you may or may no be aware of

How can you say someone still has time to achieve pre-sale reward by buying a current clan pack when i did pre-sale purchase a clan pack and yet the upgrades i've made on that pre-sale don't count towards my pre-sale bonus?

What i'm taling about is my clan mechs i've upgraded to my pre-sale aren't being given the polygon pattern. As customer support responded saying there not counted towards pre-sale as they where bought after the clans where brought out.

such, by the logic i'm being given by customer support, how can anyone who buys one of th existing clan packs today count as a pre sale for freebies yet when i DID pre-sale i get told no there a date that the sale had to be made for.

In one statement your staff are saying what a pre-sale is, but in your response you say people can still achieve this. If your the man in charge why is it your staff are saying one thing and your saying another?

I liek what i see but can you understand from my pov i'm being burnt? On one hand your slapping me in the face by saying these late comers get freeibes and count as pre-sale account yet on the other your staff are saying no, sales after this date don't count as pre sales.

Can you get your company in order and make 1 simple ruling on what counts as a pre-sale and what doesn't.

All i want is a level playing field and one hand i'm told i'm a pre-sale account but on the other i'm not i'm not. who do i believe? when i click something that says i can upgrade my current sale is being upgraded not addon.

Ie like with my car and holiday. i bought the items and before the car arrvied or went on the holiday other special came along that i was able to UPGRADE my package, i was able to put bigger rims on it, i didn't have to buy the car and then buy new rims, i upgraded my car same for my holiday i added extra destinations as an upgrade.

Yet i get told here, not you adding on, not upgrading and yet now you come out and say, oh buy now and u can count as upgraded account for freebies.

Please can we get a ruling on this, either i get my polygon patterns and he gets his atlas, or we both get nothing.

how can u say to 1 thing to 1 customer and yet a different thing to a 2nd customer?


To me this is a double standard.


P.s. i really do like the new wave 2 clan mechs, but atm i feel robbed and i'm not comfortable giving any more money and i've been with the firm since closed beta.

Buying the package now is still pre-order because you get the mechs before they are all released for C-Bills. The stuff that was given away before like Polygon was bonus material, not the pre-order itself.

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 07:24 PM

I do agree with this entirely. Been a fence sitter about the game for a while. Joined MWO on Nov 11. 2011. Have Elite Founders, Phoenix Overlord, Masakari plus an extra mech here and there. Play with my Merc unit Legion of Phobos lately plus some PUB games. General boredom has been the overall attitude of what I have seen but kept alive with the promise of CW.

With the corporate split I freely admit I see some light. Especially with Russ taking up time to answer questions and do some 'splainin' directly in the forums. Now that is an advance we old timers appreciate. Talk directly to us. I know it eats up time and patience but I think we customers and supporters are worth it. We respond well to honesty and truth (well, most of us).

I think this Wave2 sale after the corporate split is because you need the money. Fair enough. I see better days ahead for both PGI and we customers. When the sale starts tomorrow I will PayPal $120 for the Clan Pack Wave2. An investment in PEOPLE at PGI, not mechs alone.





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