Kain Thul, on 15 September 2014 - 02:28 PM, said:
That's pretty much the same way I'm seeing it. I will never use the Gargoyle over a Warhawk or Dire Wolf.
I can't wait to sneak behind someone in my Hellbringer and give them 2 ERPCCs to the back.
Agree on the Gargoyle unless it ends up with some crazy good hit boxes or something. 80 tons is an unfortunate place to be. The Engines that it takes to run them are very heavy for the speeds you get which in turn reduces the pod space significantly lower than what you can achieve on a Timber Wolf. However, the one niche it does have is its speed. Therefore I can see some people who aren't fans of slow Assault mechs using the Gargoyle in their Assault mech spot in CW. It isn't a bad mech after all, rather it is just outclassed by the Timber Wolf and doesn't offer near the firepower of a Dire Wolf.
Bishop Steiner, on 15 September 2014 - 01:17 PM, said:
142 Kph speed. (after tweak)
Arm reflex
depending on omnipods released, 4x C-ER Mlaser 2x C-SRM6 (or C-aSRM4s) and an ER SLAser.
Yeah, can't think of any use for that.
Your forgetting one thing...heat. That set up will generate 35 heat and you will only be mounting like 12 DHS. Trying to cram that load out on it is going to be hot, hot, hot.
Nathan Foxbane, on 15 September 2014 - 03:33 PM, said:
The Man O' War will have plenty of beams with the configurations available. Max will be four in the left and five in the right unless the C variant does not get its unique right arm available. It will probably least capable as a ballistics boat, capping out at two and do decently as an LRM boat being able to boast 55 tubes before it runs out of hardpoints.
I am mostly concerned for the Ice Ferret. I personally would have preferred the Viper but the Ferret has an equivalent in the Cicada. Unfortunately the only thing the Ice Ferret can do better than the Cicada is be an LRM boat and even then the X-5 will get similar or better results until they do a visual pass on the Cicadas when Cicadas will become better for most builds.
The Mist Lynx looks like it will play the part of an inferior Jenner, Spider, or Firestarter as all of its designs occupy similar niches. It will likely outclass the Commando in all but the most weapons centric builds and will not lose by much to those.
Hellbringers will bring more to the table than just a heavy with ECM, being able to pack dual twenty rated ACs out of the box. It can max out armor by giving up three tons and has the most free crit slots of any Clan Omni yet released or for that matter seen in the first Wave. It will able to do anything except maximize its ability as an LRM boat (60 tubes + artemis) while carrying ECM. It should be interesting to see the end result and the variety of potential builds will likely be similar to the Timber Wolf.
Mad Dogs will be the premier Heavy LRM boat. Catapults will shed many tears at the simple fact the Mad Dogs can do almost anything they can do better.
Agree across the board with you here. As I mentioned above the Gargoyle isn't bad on paper rather it is just outclassed by the Timber Wolf. That is unless it has amazing hitboxes or some other perk or quick anyway.
Also I just don't know that I see any real value in the Ice Ferret or Myst Lynx. They have some speed but seem a bit weak in the weapons load outs available. Also Clan weapons are hot as hell so that is going to put some constraints on them as well. The one thing that might end up being a major factor in their favor however is that they won't have that vulnerable XL engine. Going to have to wait and see how much of a factor this is.
As to the Hellbringer, yeah it is going to be a good mech any way you look at it, even without ECM. Like the Timber Wolf, it has such a massive amount of options available for hardpoint configurations that it will offer something for everyone no matter what their favorite weapons combinations are. Also despite the fact it doesn't use Endo or FF, it still has an amazing amount of pod space available. Your going to probably have to add at least 3 tons to armor but that still leaves 25 tons for weapons and equipment. Also with no endo or FF, you have a completely open chassis as far as crits go. I will definitely be buying a Hellbringer Ala Carte.
As for the Mad Dog, this is one mech that really can go either way. I love the hardpoint options and love the look but I am terribly afraid it is going to have Dragon Syndrome and find that it gets itself cored very easily. How they design the hitboxes is going to be very important to this mech. Got to admit that I am a little bummed about it being available for cash only as a promo for spending $360 on the entire series of Clan mechs. Aside from the Hellbringer it is the only other mech left in the 3050 TRO I might have opened my wallet for but I not adding $240 to my purchases to get it.
Edited by Viktor Drake, 15 September 2014 - 05:32 PM.
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