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#1 Insidious Johnson

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 08:55 PM

Dear Devs,
What is your plan to deal with afk mechers and simple macro programmed bots? I've just come off a 5+ year stretch of reporting bots or bot like behavior in competitive arenas in Guild Wars. What in game options will players have when they pick up a random lone wolf or house player to discover that they are worse than noobs (i.e. scripted macro bots)? Mercenaries will not have this problem, since they can filter their ranks as needed.

Since mercenaries will have the most control over their ranks and be the most selective, a good mercenary unit will inevitably be the end goal of every decent pilot who has no house loyalty. How can you regulate that natural slide without causing pain somewhere in the equation? How will houses upsell themselves to their own players or deal with internal strife in ANY way shape or form as far as players go? What is gonna keep a house player in a house if he randomly selected it? Whatever the solution, I propose NOT limiting mercenary unit size, ever. If you do, Merc units will just reform into companies that fit the restrictions and could lead to a situation where victories are merely traded, not won. Besides, mercs been asking this unanswered question for ages. No one wants a repeat of the canon names debacle.

Lastly, the spammer problem. They are the natural precursors of bots. They are the tool of the gold seller or 3rd party leveler. They at best do what you ask them while only stealing minor amounts and reselling your credit card to someone in China. At worse... the scope of this post cannot cover it in sufficient detail. Kill them all! Also, will players have ability to report this in game as well? Do you plan on having server mods on 24/7? Or some kind of vote/kick/ban procedure?

Happy TL;DR random posting based solely on the title.

Edited by Insidious Johnson, 22 June 2012 - 08:55 PM.


#2 Teralitha

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 09:31 PM

botting is impossible in this game.

#3 Pando

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 09:38 PM

View PostTeralitha, on 22 June 2012 - 09:31 PM, said:

botting is impossible in this game.


That's what they told me in BF3, I had scripted a program during closed beta that would target and shoot players with leading targets factored in.

Also, scripted a google chrome extension to password grab on DEV only servers. I was the first un-authorized player on caspian during ALPHA BF3.

#4 DocBach

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 09:42 PM

There's no player economy, you can't sell loot or anything like that to other players so there isn't any reason to have spammers sell stuff, since you buy it all through PGI's in game store.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 09:44 PM

If I see an enemy mech barely moving and I have the time...I'm going to slowly damage every part of his armor. If he's the last one standing then he's going to have a bad time.

#6 Teralitha

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 09:45 PM

View PostDocBach, on 22 June 2012 - 09:42 PM, said:

There's no player economy, you can't sell loot or anything like that to other players so there isn't any reason to have spammers sell stuff, since you buy it all through PGI's in game store.


Well they can sell the accounts.... But either way, botting is impossible here. Even if someone came up with a semi functional bot, it would be useless.

#7 Eiki

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 09:52 PM

"Get your 10M C-Bills for a low price! Just ignore the fact that there is no possible way to trade currency!"
You know people are STILL going to fall for it and throw their money at these sites along with their username and password. Its impossible for games to filter out the idiots.

#8 Lonestar1771

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 09:56 PM

The game is already full of Bots! :) yuk yuk yuk

#9 Eiki

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 09:58 PM

View PostLonestar1771, on 22 June 2012 - 09:56 PM, said:

The game is already full of Bots! :) yuk yuk yuk

But Bots imply tiny tiny robots!

#10 Lonestar1771

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 10:01 PM

bots not bytes

#11 Eiki

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 10:03 PM

View PostLonestar1771, on 22 June 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

bots not bytes

Think Battlebots.

#12 Steelo

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 10:04 PM

View PostLonestar1771, on 22 June 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

bots not bytes


these jokes byte

hyuck hyuck hyuck

#13 PirateLincoln

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 10:08 PM

They mostly come at night...

...mostly.

#14 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 10:09 PM

View PostLonestar1771, on 22 June 2012 - 09:56 PM, said:

The game is already full of Bots! :) yuk yuk yuk


wokka wokka

#15 Dataman

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 10:11 PM

View PostLonestar1771, on 22 June 2012 - 09:56 PM, said:

The game is already full of Bots! :) yuk yuk yuk


Posted Image

I think this is the best robot anime in my childhood.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 10:11 PM

View PostTeralitha, on 22 June 2012 - 09:45 PM, said:


Well they can sell the accounts.... But either way, botting is impossible here. Even if someone came up with a semi functional bot, it would be useless.


If people can bot in WOT they can bot here.

#17 FSlSlayer

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 10:12 PM

Wow Medabots..../face

#18 RedMax

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 10:13 PM

How about ye olde IP address ban. That always works. :)
But seriously, I would think you'd have to run it by a mod and be patient and hope he/she/it, (the offender), doesn't mess things up too bad before they are delt with.

#19 Pando

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 10:15 PM

View PostTeralitha, on 22 June 2012 - 09:45 PM, said:


Well they can sell the accounts.... But either way, botting is impossible here. Even if someone came up with a semi functional bot, it would be useless.



Botting is possible anywhere, If you don't believe me then you've obviously never seen a real "bot" program.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 10:15 PM

View PostRedMax, on 22 June 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

How about ye olde IP address ban. That always works. :)
But seriously, I would think you'd have to run it by a mod and be patient and hope he/she/it, (the offender), doesn't mess things up too bad before they are delt with.

How about an Orbital Bombardment?





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