268 replies to this topic

[Blood Rose]

Because Clantech is OP and some people just cant learn so they have to cry to PGI for nerfs.

[EvilCow]

The problem is that other clan mechs are not performing at the same level. In my opinion it should not be nerfed.

Clan tech balance must be considered as a whole not just comparing mech A with mech B.

[Moonlander]

Blood Rose, on 19 September 2014 - 01:13 AM, said:

Because Clantech is OP and some people just cant learn so they have to cry to PGI for nerfs.

Your reading comprehension is on par with a 1st grader. Most of the people in this thread of actually recommending other things.

[Joseph Mallan]

Kmieciu, on 19 September 2014 - 12:33 AM, said:

You shoot him at his destroyed side torso, your effective damage gets halved. You hit his arm stump, it is divided by 4. That's why clan XL are so great. If they destroy your ST, you get a free shield that soaks 50%-75% damage. When fighting 1vs1 you should always go for the legs.


If every other mech was buffed to TW level matches would be over in 2-3 minutes. Is that what are you asking for?

Thats as long as the actual fighting lasts anyway. Seriously I exclude walking to find the enemy, time spend backing out of line of sight.

If Timber Wolves are so OP, why are they the first mech to disengage when their paint gets chipped?

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 19 September 2014 - 01:24 AM.

[Dark DeLaurel]

aniviron, on 19 September 2014 - 12:47 AM, said:

At this point, I don't think most of the clan mechs are OP. The Kitfox is... alright. The Nova is subpar. The Summoner is flat out bad. The Direwolf is good. The Adder is a joke. The Stormcrow is good. The Timberwolf is great. The Warhawk is underwhelming.

I'd like to see the Timberwolf, Stormcrow, and Dire Wolf get looked at before more blanket nerfs happen. Most of the rest of the clan mechs are pretty decently balanced with IS mechs at this point.

The Timberwolf and Stormcrow are the only non-lights with both Ferro and Endo, and neither has any hard mounted equipment. This gives them a huge advantage over all the other clan mechs, which either need the tonnage from Ferro/Endo but don't have it, or have tonnage and crits tied up in heatsinks, jumpjets, or flamers that they don't want. That means the TBR/SCR carry more weapons, run cooler, and get more armor. The one exception is the Dire Wolf, which is so heavy it'd rather have the free crits than weight savings from Ferro/Endo.




The Orion and Awesome would like a word with you.

I should have phrased that in TT that range is, here in MW:O the Awesome sucks balls because of hit boxes (and i have two mastered one of which is a PB). I run a Protector Orion and i find it acts like a mini Atlas, not sure about the other cfgs though as the Clans came out not too long before the Protector, not to mention I only wanted the Protector...

[kapusta11]

Take 2 top players, put one in Timberwolf and the other one in any IS heavy, let them play 30 games then we'll see. Balancing around PUG noobs will get us nowhere.

[Dark DeLaurel]

Joseph Mallan, on 19 September 2014 - 01:24 AM, said:

Thats as long as the actual fighting lasts anyway. Seriously I exclude walking to find the enemy, time spend backing out of line of sight.

If Timber Wolves are so OP, why are they the first mech to disengage when their paint gets chipped?

Because they don't want their paint to get too marked up? Those things cost money to get buffed and waxed!

[Nauht]

Meh, I've mastered all my TW and am bored of them. Nerf them all you want. The only one that loses will be the CB people now.

[Kiiyor]

Thorn Hallis, on 19 September 2014 - 12:26 AM, said:

Why not buff the other 'Mechs?

/toolazytofindtheBUFFALLTHEMECHSmeme

[Sadist Cain]

I love Timberwolfs...

AS7-D-DC

They're delicious

Edited by Sadist Cain, 19 September 2014 - 01:59 AM.

[LowSubmarino]

Once the twolf is availabe for cbills it'll get some attention. Otherwise 78,3456123 % of all pilots will choose that mech. And that would be a shame. What about all the other mechs then?

[Dark DeLaurel]

oneda, on 19 September 2014 - 02:01 AM, said:

Once the twolf is availabe for cbills it'll get some attention. Otherwise 78,3456123 % of all pilots will choose that mech. And that would be a shame. What about all the other mechs then?

That has been said for almost all the good `Mechs that have come out over the years. The chassis will become the flavor of the month, then its use will slowly dwindle.

[Galen Crayn]

I have bought the Timber Wolf to get my free new Atlas. I love Atlas!!! And no, dont nerf TW. Everybody who can play his or her mech can beat it. But for beginners the TW is the biggest nightmare around...

[Marmon Rzohr]

El Bandito, on 19 September 2014 - 12:16 AM, said:

All I can say is yes, T-Wolf does need some mobility and hit-box nerfs/fixes, and they are choking the Heavy queue.
Takes forever to play my Cats when the Heavy queue is 45%. Searching for matches...........................................

There is no point in nerfing hitboxes !

All the mechs should have good hitboxes, and if a mech stands out, then others should be buffed. It's simply not cool or fun to pilot a mech in which you think "oh well the enemy can shoot me wherever they like, no matter what I do". The game would be much more fun if all mechs had Centurion or Stalker level hitboxes. PGI seems to know this as all the Clans have solid to good hitboxes, and that is not a step that should be taken back.

Regarding mobility nerfs, I think a good starting point would be to lower the speed-tweaked speed to 81.

Apart from that, we'll have to wait and see how severe the Clan XL nerf is, IMHO.

[r4plez]

pugs want TW nerfed, ohh how sweet, this brings tear to my eye


NO

[B0oN]

NO

How about trying something other than those classic " I´m a DDC I´m gonna **** ye all" things that too many STILL try to pull off ?
Might raise your chances to kill something that is ~40% quicker than you ...

Oh, another thing .... there is quite a few guys out there that are using DDC´s "good/efficient/viable" ... take a look at them please and stop trying to reason for absolutely unjustified nerfings/buffings because in the end :

ALL YOU "NERF THIS! NERF THAT!" -GUYS WILL HAVE DONE IS THAT EVERY WEAPON IS AN EXACT COPY OF ANOTHER SUCKING THE LIFE OUT OF MECHWAR LEAVING US WITH LESS THAN CS-BETA WAS CLOSE TO 2 DECADES AGO.

Take up the challenge to fight better enemies, FIGHT !

And let me tell you one thing besides that ... I love to kill lights with Direwhales

Tl;Dr ?

OP, level up your game please, it seems inadequate .

Edited by Rad Hanzo, 19 September 2014 - 02:34 AM.

[Bartholomew bartholomew]

Frankly I have 1-1 Twolves in a Griffin and won. And have 1-1 an Atlas in a raven-4x and won LOTS of times.

So go away with the nerfherding. An atlas is an atlas. Go for the gun and they are gone..

[Dark DeLaurel]

Rad Hanzo, on 19 September 2014 - 02:32 AM, said:

CS-BETA WAS CLOSE TO 2 DECADES AGO.

uh....so.....yea....20 years ago?

[Sam Slade]

Timberwolf will loose a little of its 'death bot' sheen when people learn to fight it...

There have been knee jerk nerf attacks before and they are always bad. I really miss my effective Victor... but it was over powered or some such nonsense and the fix was to destroy it with nerfs. Now, because of over-nerf, there is nothing IS to fight the Clans flagship Heavy... something a Victor would do pretty well.

Moral of the story: Lock up the nerf-bat.

[Lily from animove]

Kain Thul, on 19 September 2014 - 12:19 AM, said:

75-80 ton mechs will just about always be some of the best because of where they fall in the weight category.

I think the nerfs to the Victor were lame and need to be rolled back. Serious mobility nerfs like that should just flat out never happen again.

Well, but having a clantech mech at 75t with ES and FF is just a bit overkill.

Iron Riding Cowboy, on 19 September 2014 - 01:05 AM, said:

Its been hinted the victor is getting unnerfed so now why are you crying for a TW nerf ?

http://mwomercs.com/...ctor-quirk-set/

because TW is still overkill still making nearly any other mech below it inferior, and even some assaults above him.

Edited by Lily from animove, 19 September 2014 - 02:46 AM.