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#21 Dark DeLaurel

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 06:25 PM

View PostRip Snorgan, on 22 September 2014 - 06:24 PM, said:

Hey, no worries, we've all made our own share of mistakes of some sort in-game at some point eh?


Mine are a whole lot of Atlas D-DC chassis and some I am sure I bought with MC at some point during open beta not paying attention....

#22 Auxian

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 06:27 PM

View PostDark DeLaurel, on 22 September 2014 - 06:23 PM, said:


Well i wouldn't call it a hero lol....anyways ha yes that is the other way to do it, but in the end you are looking at a good deal of cash for an XL (i think 5 Million for the 300) so you will have to grind for a while. Nice thing about another hero `Mech is it gives you another chassis to swap into when you get sick of the SDH. I know myself that if i grind too long in one `Mech it drives me bonkers and my grinding slows down a lot.


So, 2 million that I'll make in a few hours..plus the 2 million that I make tomorrow because of the 1 year rewards..that's only one million I have to grind for! :P Oh! And also I am now a free to play due to other reasons, so no Hero mech for me.

#23 Dark DeLaurel

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 06:40 PM

View PostAuxian, on 22 September 2014 - 06:27 PM, said:


So, 2 million that I'll make in a few hours..plus the 2 million that I make tomorrow because of the 1 year rewards..that's only one million I have to grind for! :P Oh! And also I am now a free to play due to other reasons, so no Hero mech for me.


In theory yes it could only take a few hours to grind out. that is if you can average 100, 000 C-Bills per match (it is actually ten matches so really if each match was ten minutes long you are looking at 100 minutes). So anything is doable, and I wish you luck in doing it without wanting to hang yourself, I haven't tried the trial `Mechs yet so I have no idea how good/bad they are other than seeing how they do in game in the hands of new folk.

#24 Void Angel

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 06:42 PM

View PostAuxian, on 22 September 2014 - 06:14 PM, said:

If I'm honest, I don't remeber. I just returned from a few months of a break from this grindfest fun game :P

And yeah, nothing, at all. :/ Screwed myself over eh?

A little; but you're close to an XL, and the rest can be bought. Just let this be a lesson to you - never sell anything unless you have a skazillion of them, and never sell them all. I've done it myself, and I've just about always regretted doing so.

View PostAuxian, on 22 September 2014 - 06:22 PM, said:

I am sure as can be, I have nothing but a few double heat sinks for my Shadowhawk. Haha, and also I'd like to thank you guys for the feedback and advice, very helpful!

Hey, it's what we're here for. Not all of us in the forums are trolls. =)

View PostAuxian, on 22 September 2014 - 06:27 PM, said:

So, 2 million that I'll make in a few hours..plus the 2 million that I make tomorrow because of the 1 year rewards..that's only one million I have to grind for! :P Oh! And also I am now a free to play due to other reasons, so no Hero mech for me.

If you can't afford it, you can't afford it - I'm in the same boat. Just keep on that SH with the bonus, and you'll be back on your feet. If you have friends to play with, or a unit that looks fun to join, you should do that, too; the game feels like a grindfest a lot more when you're just playing it by yourself, rather than spending time with buddies - even if you're just all solo dropping in the same channel.

Edited by Void Angel, 22 September 2014 - 06:43 PM.


#25 Auxian

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 06:48 PM

View PostVoid Angel, on 22 September 2014 - 06:42 PM, said:

A little; but you're close to an XL, and the rest can be bought. Just let this be a lesson to you - never sell anything unless you have a skazillion of them, and never sell them all. I've done it myself, and I've just about always regretted doing so.

Hey, it's what we're here for. Not all of us in the forums are trolls. =)

If you can't afford it, you can't afford it - I'm in the same boat. Just keep on that SH with the bonus, and you'll be back on your feet. If you have friends to play with, or a unit that looks fun to join, you should do that, too; the game feels like a grindfest a lot more when you're just playing it by yourself, rather than spending time with buddies - even if you're just all solo dropping in the same channel.



That is exactly what I've been doing. Just solo dropping and farming. None of my friends have that much of a interest in ''Big stompy laser mechs'' and I haven't looked into units at all yet, suppose I should do that. lol

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 06:51 PM

Anyway, thanks for the advice, I won't screw up like this again I hope lol. Happy gaming!

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 07:08 PM

Run trial mechs for now (no other choice really) and earn the funds for the parts you need. Kind of like real life when you don't have the money to keep the house, you just gotta pick things up and work until you can afford what you need.

Thankfully you have the trial mechs. So run them. If missiles are heavily in use, use some missile boats. If there's lots of ECM, switch to something with some good direct fire. Whatever you do, make sure the mechs you use are useful to you.

Good time to try the Clan trials. Careful about those firing groups. Sometimes it's better to chain fire weapons continuously.

After racking in some cbills, rebuild.

The Locust can get away with a standard engine. Slap in a TAG and 2 MGs and you're set. It won't be fantastic, but it'll make you cash when spotting for the missile mechs; then use your speed to pull back to allies. No one expects a Locust that'll survive losing a side torso.

The Shadowhawk, just rearm it. If you absolutely can't stand the trial mechs then go for a standard engine and more energy firepower than ballistics.
If you can, wait until you can afford an XL engine. If possible, save until you can literally buy another Shadowhawk and then siphon parts from it if necessary. (Cheaper than buying the parts straight.)

Good luck!

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 07:25 PM

Another thing to mention, if you grind with a trial shadow hawk now and decide to elite your (P) shadow hawk later (so need 2 more variants), the trial shadow hawk you used to grind now retains the exp you gained with it. Therefore, if you decide to buy that trial shadow hawk variant in the future it will have a chunk of exp already grinded.

Edited by Wulf1666, 22 September 2014 - 07:27 PM.


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Posted 22 September 2014 - 07:32 PM

View PostWulf1666, on 22 September 2014 - 07:25 PM, said:

Therefore, if you decide to buy that trial shadow hawk variant in the future it will have a chunk of exp already grinded.

Emphasis added, just in case, as there have been people who did not realize the distinction there. :unsure:

Edited by Shar Wolf, 22 September 2014 - 07:32 PM.


#30 Clownwarlord

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 08:07 PM

Rebuild your shadowhawk, put in a good build you love playing and do well. OR you put in a meta build and join a competitive or more then casual group. After you rebuild your shadowhawk grind for C-Bills. If you haven't mastered your Shadowhawk then buy two other variants of the Shadowhawk and master your mech. Once this is done do the same with the locust, sadly there is not going to be as many meta builds for it is basically is a trial and error mech with random weapon matching.

Once this is done and you have your Shadowhawk and Locust mastered then sell off your extra mechs (not your phoenix mechs because those have C-Bill bonuses). So then you should have 2 mastered mechs (locust p and shadowhawk p) and 4 empty mech bays on top of those that they have been handing out like candy. After that I say try and find a heavy mech you like (maybe a clan mech) or assault mech you like. After that master them and keep the mech you like.

Now when you sell off the mechs, never sell anything with it just the chassis. In other words strip the mech of engine, weapons, equipment, and modules before selling. That way you might not have to re-buy an engine later but instead just use one you already have sitting around (saving you C-Bills in a hard environment to earn them).

OK so after all that you should have a few empty mech bays, and a mastered mech in each weight class. This will give you a foundation to continue to build your C-Bills up by grinding your mechs that you have mastered and/or have C-Bill bonuses on.

For example I myself have purchased the big pheonix project, the masakari, and now the man-o-war. I master each mech I can and save up all my extra C-Bills for the next mech I have to rebuild or for a future mech I would like to own. I only sell off mechs I truly hate and never sell a bonus mech (reason is because they help get me more C-Bills).

When community warfare, or if you are competitive you should have a nice selection of mech to choose from to help your group in fighting for whatever it is they are fighting for.

Mechs I might suggest if you do not have and try and master them:
Atlas DDC
Jenner D
Cataphract 3D
Jager D
Victor 9S
Stalker 5M
Hunchback 4P
Raven 3L
Cicada 3M
...

There are others such as clan mechs there is the Timber Wolf (any should do because of the omnipods) and so I hope my list helps but the mechs I suggested I have seen used in competitive play along with the Shadowhawk you already have. Again hope this helps and if you are looking for a group Starship Troopers are recruiting: www.starship-troopers.enjin.com

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 08:46 PM

Actually I think it might be better to use the Locust 1V to grind.

A 190XL engine only costs 3.1 million credits and the 1V doesn't need the double heatsink upgrade. You'd just play Conquest missions with the objective of capping and 'touching' (getting a damaging hit) as many enemy mechs as possible for the assists.

To get things started, if you can't afford the 190XL this build using a standard 180 engine should be serviceable and fast enough for you to be a useful capper in a conquest match.

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 09:32 PM

View PostAuxian, on 22 September 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

Hello! As you can see I'm not a noobie but I would like to know what exactly I should do here.

For starters I have the Storm package. Problem is I currently only have the phoenix mechs, nothing else. On top of that when I bought the package I was a MAJOR noob and sold all the extra chassis. So I have a Phoenix locust and Phoenix Shadowhawk, both currently gutted, no engine, weapons, nothing. At the time of this post I have 1,539,612 C-bills. I am getting the 2Mill tomorrow.
(1 year costumer service rewards)

My question for any Vet reading this is. What do I do now? :)

tomorrow you should (if you played 100 games) get 2mill cbills. However, why would you sell all your engines and not the mechs, if you go that route?

#33 Void Angel

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 09:42 PM

View PostAuxian, on 22 September 2014 - 06:48 PM, said:



That is exactly what I've been doing. Just solo dropping and farming. None of my friends have that much of a interest in ''Big stompy laser mechs'' and I haven't looked into units at all yet, suppose I should do that. lol

The BWC is hiring. We've got members from all around the globe across a slew of games, not just this one, and we can accomodate everything from top-level competition to casual gameplay - in fact, I've gone from the first extreme to the latter, as my situation and schedule changed.

View PostRuccus, on 22 September 2014 - 08:46 PM, said:

Actually I think it might be better to use the Locust 1V to grind.

A 190XL engine only costs 3.1 million credits and the 1V doesn't need the double heatsink upgrade. You'd just play Conquest missions with the objective of capping and 'touching' (getting a damaging hit) as many enemy mechs as possible for the assists.

To get things started, if you can't afford the 190XL this build using a standard 180 engine should be serviceable and fast enough for you to be a useful capper in a conquest match.

A viable short-term alternative, but you won't get as many c-bills long-term as you would with more firepower, unfortunately. The Locust is just too fragile, and people know it - it's a great trainer 'mech for "how to run for your life from everyone you meet," but not what I'd recommend for a c-bill earner. =)

#34 Dark DeLaurel

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 09:42 PM

View PostVoid Angel, on 22 September 2014 - 09:39 PM, said:

The BWC is hiring. We've got members from all around the globe across a slew of games, not just this one, and we can accomodate everything from top-level competition to casual gameplay - in fact, I've gone from the first extreme to the latter, as my situation and schedule changed.


Not quite the area to be doing recruiting in ;) that would be a good schtick for a private message though :ph34r:

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 09:44 PM

If it's on-topic, it's quite appropriate - and it was.

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 09:59 PM

Check out mechspecs.com for builds that have worked for other people. I've found some of my favorite builds there.

Edit: made link clickable.

Edited by PictishWolf, 22 September 2014 - 10:00 PM.


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Posted 22 September 2014 - 10:15 PM

View PostAuxian, on 22 September 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

Hello! As you can see I'm not a noobie but I would like to know what exactly I should do here.

For starters I have the Storm package. Problem is I currently only have the phoenix mechs, nothing else. On top of that when I bought the package I was a MAJOR noob and sold all the extra chassis. So I have a Phoenix locust and Phoenix Shadowhawk, both currently gutted, no engine, weapons, nothing. At the time of this post I have 1,539,612 C-bills. I am getting the 2Mill tomorrow.
(1 year costumer service rewards)

My question for any Vet reading this is. What do I do now? :)


focus on the shadowhawk imo. it's still a damn good IS medium, 2K is great with 3erLL and 2d2 and 5m iirc can do the 2ac5 1erppc build reallly good.

Just get them basic'd and move toward eliting the 5M or the other shadowhawk that does 2ac5 1ppc (can't recall atm) and master it.

use a hero mech or prime variant or something with the cbill bonues if you can atm to grind, if not, just use the shadowhawks

simple, //endthread

#38 Rogue Jedi

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Posted 23 September 2014 - 12:29 AM

have you checked your inventory to see if you have any parts e.g. engines, heat sinks, weapons? if not go the home tab then click on inventory, look at all the categories, just to see if you have anything available to start refitting the Mech without spending any cbills





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