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#1 Naduk

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 08:41 PM

why are we still playing with mixed tech ?
we were promised months before the clans arrived that mixed tech would not happen
then we were told to wait for the new match maker, thats out now and it works, tests have been run
but we are still playing mixed tech

this is making the group Que unbearable as min/max competitive teams flay casual teams constantly (this has always happened but has never been this extreme before)

why did PGI bother at all trying to balance the clans with burst AC when these teams can just field ac40jaggers along side 6xuac5whales or 2xERppc 2xGauss

balance goes right out the window when teams can take the best of the best from each faction and form the dream team
atlas DDC protecting 3x Timberwolfs/Maddogs followed by Direwolfs and stormcrows all with raven3L's, spiders and embers/jenners at their heels

the debate rages constantly on the forums about how Clans are /are not op and why
how are we truly supposed to know when we are stuck with mixed tech
how can any real discussion take place about balance when we are not seeing real data on the strengths and weakness of each faction

its not even a i can play with my friends argument anymore
trial mechs exist in both IS and Clan now

there is no reason anymore to have Mixed Tech

i say enough with half measures
either give Clan and IS access to each others weapons or remove mixed tech like it was supposed to be

#2 El Bandito

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 08:45 PM

IMO, mixed tech should be taken away from group queue. Then people will see better if Clan tech is really superior or not, since much less "noob IS pilots" will be there.

Pug queue can mix whatever they want.

Edited by El Bandito, 26 September 2014 - 08:46 PM.


#3 CocoaJin

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 08:50 PM

You gotta wait for CW if you want segregated tech. I can't imagine PuG matches to be anything but mixed play.

#4 Naduk

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 09:11 PM

why should pug matches be mixed tech ?
they are all solo players, it would be even easier for them to play pure tech

mixed tech affects solo play just as much as group Que

the majority of my unit has stopped playing because of fighting side by side with clans
this is not what we singed up for
and to be honest, its getting harder and harder to play each night

#5 CocoaJin

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 10:35 PM

Wait for CW, that might not beg the answer you want to hear, but it's the answer you'll have to accept. Or may be you can do private matches until CW comes.

Regardless, PGI isn't going to force any tech restrictions on PuG matches, it's intended to be open matches. Restrictions are a part of CW.

#6 aniviron

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 11:06 PM

When we were told no mixed tech, they meant it as "no clan weapons on IS mechs" (and presumably no IS PPCs on clan mechs).

Sucks, but that's where it is. I was looking forward to just playing CW instead of the normal queue, but unless I read the design document wrong, you're only going to get to play that for two hours a day, and only at a specified time, so sucks for you if you're in a bad timezone or busy then.

#7 JP Josh

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 11:21 PM

eh i stoped playing back when third person came out and devs started to really pull away from TT

i still come back to the forum in hope but each time i do. i die a little

#8 Kiiyor

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 11:26 PM

We can't have pure faction vs faction battles, as the Clans are still quite adept at stomping the IS into the dirt, over and over, brutally. They then scoop out the remains of slain 'Sphere pilots from their shattered cockpits and send them back to their grieving loved ones, just to rub salt into the wound, before mailing pictures of their shiny Clan mechs tea-bagging fallen Atlases to the nearest Comstar facility for immediate transmission to the rest of the Sphere.

The last time the MM was set to 'faction showdown', even with advanced notice, the forums were temporarily drowned out with the awesome sound of a billion 'Sphereoids whining out in unison.

I think the devs should make a weekend out of it (apologies for the crappy photoshop and grammatical errors):

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#9 aniviron

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Posted 27 September 2014 - 12:02 AM

View PostKiiyor, on 26 September 2014 - 11:26 PM, said:

We can't have pure faction vs faction battles, as the Clans are still quite adept at stomping the IS into the dirt, over and over, brutally. They then scoop out the remains of slain 'Sphere pilots from their shattered cockpits and send them back to their grieving loved ones, just to rub salt into the wound, before mailing pictures of their shiny Clan mechs tea-bagging fallen Atlases to the nearest Comstar facility for immediate transmission to the rest of the Sphere.

The last time the MM was set to 'faction showdown', even with advanced notice, the forums were temporarily drowned out with the awesome sound of a billion 'Sphereoids whining out in unison.

I think the devs should make a weekend out of it (apologies for the crappy photoshop and grammatical errors):

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Regardless of whether it's a good idea or not, that poster is AWESOME (post-quirks).

#10 Davegt27

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Posted 27 September 2014 - 12:13 AM

I like the mixed tech seems fun to me

#11 MauttyKoray

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Posted 27 September 2014 - 12:18 AM

1. All I hear in this thread is 'QQ the quick matches let anyone choose whatever mech!'

2. Community Warfare will restrict IS and Clans to pilot their own mechs.

3. You guys are stupid and don't know what the **** mixed tech is. It refers to combining the use of parts from both IS and Clan, such as putting a Clan's ERPPC on an IS mech. THAT is mixed tech...durr.

#12 Wolfways

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Posted 27 September 2014 - 12:19 AM

Outside of CW MWO is not a BattleTech game.

Unfortunately.

#13 Johnny Z

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Posted 27 September 2014 - 12:29 AM

Yep it is a slaughter every time the divide up the tech in the queues. That some enjoy easy mode in the mixed tech matches, is just part of the game at the moment.

Edited by Johnny Z, 27 September 2014 - 12:29 AM.


#14 Naduk

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Posted 28 September 2014 - 03:29 PM

CW will be nice but here is my problem with that
its only in effect during planetary battles and its only during set times of the day

i dont want to fight side by side in my hunchback with timberwolfs and maddogs
its not right

#15 Belorion

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Posted 28 September 2014 - 03:31 PM

The would probably have to do the perks both ways.





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